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re: Iron Bowl History - how often do "upsets" happen?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:52 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:52 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
To further expand, AU finished 8-4 in 1985 and 3-3 in the SEC.
Bama was 9-2-1 and 4-1-1 in the SEC.
Bama finished the season #13, AU finished unranked.
AU played over their head in that IB and that was because of two people, Bo Jackson and Brent Fullwood. Otherwise, Bama would have won that game going away. They were better on offense, defense, and special teams in 1985. AU was better in coaching and had Bo Jackson, which was almost, but not quite enough.
Bama was 9-2-1 and 4-1-1 in the SEC.
Bama finished the season #13, AU finished unranked.
AU played over their head in that IB and that was because of two people, Bo Jackson and Brent Fullwood. Otherwise, Bama would have won that game going away. They were better on offense, defense, and special teams in 1985. AU was better in coaching and had Bo Jackson, which was almost, but not quite enough.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:54 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Hell fricking no. Bama was the better team in 1985. They were really good. AU was not a good team in 1985. AU was a one man show with Bo Jackson and that was about it.
You're right - tired, getting '84 and '85 mixed up. For some reason I was thinking "The Kick" was in a losing season.
Seriously should not have given up coffee this week.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:59 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Pretty accurate. 1989 was not even close to an upset. I think AU was actually favored though bama was undefeated and #2. AU was not going to lose that one and pretty much destroyed bama after halftime.
Frickin' Curry....picked a bad year to play the first ever IB in JHS. I already had my tix for Sugar Bowl in NOLA against Miami. There was just no frickin' way AU was going to lose that game. One, if not the most, hositle crowd environments I have ever witnessed.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:59 am to skrayper
Bama was really good in 1985. Lost by 2 at Penn State. Penn State went 11-0 and lost to Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl for the natty.
Bama's only other loss was to a very good Tennessee team that went 9-1-1 and won the SEC, also by 2 points.
Bama was really good in 1985. AU was very meh.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:00 am to 14&Counting
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One, if not the most, hositle crowd environments I have ever witnessed.
I was a part of that hostility.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:00 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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AU played over their head in that IB and that was because of two people, Bo Jackson and Brent Fullwood. Otherwise, Bama would have won that game going away. They were better on offense, defense, and special teams in 1985. AU was better in coaching and had Bo Jackson, which was almost, but not quite enough.
I graduated high school that year. Was my first year in college when "The Kick" went through. Was drinking heavily after.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:01 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Bama was really good in 1985
I really wish we wouldn't mention this game, it still makes my blood pressure go up.....fricking Van Tiffin.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:04 am to AUCatfish
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fricking Van Tiffin.
For a while there we were PKU.
Oh well...
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:05 am to skrayper
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For a while there we were PKU.
What people forget about that kick, was the drive Shula engineered to get Bama in "range". Great game, bad ending.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:06 am to AUCatfish
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What people forget about that kick, was the drive Shula engineered to get Bama in "range".
Trust me, Shula is still considered a bit of a hero from his playing days, and a lot of that is from that game.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:14 am to skrayper
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Trust me, Shula is still considered a bit of a hero from his playing days, and a lot of that is from that game.
Van Tiffen got all the glory and deservedley so, but people forget about the clutch performance Shula had on that drive just to get it within range.
Because of that, Shula is and will always be OK in my book.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:15 am to skrayper
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Trust me, Shula is still considered a bit of a hero from his playing days, and a lot of that is from that game.
Down the road, Chris Davis will always get the glory from the kick six. But the set up and blocking on that play was perfect
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:15 am to 14&Counting
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Because of that, Shula is and will always be OK in my book.
His coaching tenure colored a lot of people's view of him, particularly if you weren't around for the game.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:18 am to 14&Counting
Shula threw a huge block on a 4th down reverse that allowed Al Bell to get the 1st down early in the drive. Had he not thrown that block, AU wins.
I was sitting in the end zone where Kiffin was kicking towards. We had actually started gathering our stuff to leave just before that 4th down reverse. My first Iron Bowl.
I was sitting in the end zone where Kiffin was kicking towards. We had actually started gathering our stuff to leave just before that 4th down reverse. My first Iron Bowl.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:20 am to AUCatfish
I will never dislike or hold any ill will toward Shula for his head coaching days at Alabama. He was brought in at a difficult time and most Alabama fans at the time of his hiring knew he was a short-term fix to a long-term problem. However, people saw the 9-0 start to the '05 season and thought he could possibly be something more than just a patch over a hole. Problem was, everyone who made that season possible were fourth and fifth year seniors and Shula was not the greatest recruiter.
Despite his record (which was barely above .500), Shula righted the ship and eased the chaos that had been running rampant through the program since 1999. He laid the foundation for what Saban eventually built. I give him credit for that and will never forget him for it.
Despite his record (which was barely above .500), Shula righted the ship and eased the chaos that had been running rampant through the program since 1999. He laid the foundation for what Saban eventually built. I give him credit for that and will never forget him for it.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:21 am to The Spleen
I just noticed...a thread about the Iron Bowl that didn't turn into a massive troll fest....maybe there is hope for the SECr.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:22 am to AUCatfish
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I really wish we wouldn't mention this game, it still makes my blood pressure go up.....fricking Van Tiffin
That was my first Iron Bowl ever. 40 yd line seats. I was 11 and fell in love with College Football after that game.
The memory of that game held me through the Tubby years. It also took a little sting off Kick6.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:22 am to RollTide1987
Shula did the best he could with the hand he was dealt. Our entire AD was so dysfunctional during that time, there was no way he was going to succeed. I thought he actually recruited decently enough, though he left some gaping holes at certain positions.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:22 am to AUCatfish
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I just noticed...a thread about the Iron Bowl that didn't turn into a massive troll fest....maybe there is hope for the SECr.
If the "Stop Robots" of the world will stay clear, we should be OK
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:25 am to AUCatfish
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His coaching tenure colored a lot of people's view of him, particularly if you weren't around for the game.
Shula is a good guy and a class act. I have met him and had a good bit of interaction with him prior to him becoming coach. He was in over his head as the Bama coach but I never pulled against him and wanted him to be succesful. It was an impossible situation and just wasn't in the cards.
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