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re: Iron Bowl History - how often do "upsets" happen?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:27 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:27 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Meh, 2004 and 2005 were not really very competitive. The 2005 game was over by the end of the first quarter. A TD in the final seconds was the only thing that made it look like it wasn't a blowout, but bama wasn't even close to competitive in that one. In 2004, we scored 21 points on three straight possessions to start the second half to go up big, then bama scored a TD and got a two point conversion with a few seconds left on a hail mary throw. That one was over by mid third quarter.
2004 game was a game that at no point did anyone think Alabama would win. Spencer Pennington was miserable, we weren't great at running and though our defense gave a valiant effort you knew the dam would break eventually.
2005 game was worse than 2004. That was a beatdown.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:29 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The 2005 game was over by the end of the first quarter.
Honk if you sacked Brodie.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
Spreads since 2002 (per theGoldSheet)
2002 - Alabama -11 (AU wins 17-7)
2003 - Auburn -8 (AU wins 28-23)
2004 - Auburn -10.5 (AU wins 21-13)
2005 - Auburn -7 (AU wins 28-18)
2006 - Auburn -2 (AU wins 22-15)
2007 - Auburn -14.5 (AU wins 17-10)
2008 - Alabama -14.5 (UA wins 36-0)
2009 - Alabama -9.5 (UA wins 26-21)
2010 - Alabama -4 (AU wins 28-27)
2011 - Alabama -21.5 (UA wins 42-14)
2012 - Alabama -34 (UA wins 49-0)
2013 - Alabama -10 (AU wins 34-28)
2002 - Alabama -11 (AU wins 17-7)
2003 - Auburn -8 (AU wins 28-23)
2004 - Auburn -10.5 (AU wins 21-13)
2005 - Auburn -7 (AU wins 28-18)
2006 - Auburn -2 (AU wins 22-15)
2007 - Auburn -14.5 (AU wins 17-10)
2008 - Alabama -14.5 (UA wins 36-0)
2009 - Alabama -9.5 (UA wins 26-21)
2010 - Alabama -4 (AU wins 28-27)
2011 - Alabama -21.5 (UA wins 42-14)
2012 - Alabama -34 (UA wins 49-0)
2013 - Alabama -10 (AU wins 34-28)
Posted on 11/24/14 at 9:52 am to SummerOfGeorge
upsets by the line are possible but a true upset rarely happens. I dont think a top 5 team winning at home against anyone is an upset.
The last two were when alabama won in 2001 and auburn won in 2002. Before that you would almost have to go back to 1990.
The last two were when alabama won in 2001 and auburn won in 2002. Before that you would almost have to go back to 1990.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
I know AU fans don't want like hearing this but that 2002 game still stinks to me. All year, we were so well prepared and in that game we looked all out of sorts. AU came to play from the start, but I still think Fran was out the door and didn't give a damn about it.
Of course I remember walking out of that game and telling a friend "Sucks we lost that one because I don't think we're going to beat Auburn for a few years."
Of course I remember walking out of that game and telling a friend "Sucks we lost that one because I don't think we're going to beat Auburn for a few years."
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:06 am to FairhopeTider
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I know AU fans don't want like hearing this but that 2002 game still stinks to me. All year, we were so well prepared and in that game we looked all out of sorts. AU came to play from the start, but I still think Fran was out the door and didn't give a damn about it. Of course I remember walking out of that game and telling a friend "Sucks we lost that one because I don't think we're going to beat Auburn for a few years."
Yea, doesn't take away from their win, but Wesley Britt clearly told my Uncle on a hunting trip that they put almost zero opponent specific work in that week or the Mississippi State game, which had never happened in his time at Alabama. No excuses for that game, but I hope Fran loses every single game he every plays until the day he dies.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Spreads since 2002 (per theGoldSheet)
2002 - Alabama -11 (AU wins 17-7)
2003 - Auburn -8 (AU wins 28-23)
2004 - Auburn -10.5 (AU wins 21-13)
2005 - Auburn -7 (AU wins 28-18)
2006 - Auburn -2 (AU wins 22-15)
2007 - Auburn -14.5 (AU wins 17-10)
2008 - Alabama -14.5 (UA wins 36-0)
2009 - Alabama -9.5 (UA wins 26-21)
2010 - Alabama -4 (AU wins 28-27)
2011 - Alabama -21.5 (UA wins 42-14)
2012 - Alabama -34 (UA wins 49-0)
2013 - Alabama -10 (AU wins 34-28)
So Auburn has upset Bama 3 times out of 7 and 3 out of 4 when the line was less than 11... Bama never upsets Auburn, interesting...
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
It is pretty apparent bama didn't prepare for the 2002 game. Bama was the better team, we were down to 3rd team/scout team runningback after caddie and Ronnie got injured. We weren't that good, bama was a good team.
I didn't think we had much of a shot at all. I remember meeting a girl from AU and another AU alum buddy at a sports bar in Pompano Beach for the game. We were all just wondering how bad we were gonna get beat. That one is the biggest shocker for bama in the past 35 years.
I didn't think we had much of a shot at all. I remember meeting a girl from AU and another AU alum buddy at a sports bar in Pompano Beach for the game. We were all just wondering how bad we were gonna get beat. That one is the biggest shocker for bama in the past 35 years.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:14 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
I hate when people say "throw out the record books" because you are correct. It is a load of crap.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:15 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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It is pretty apparent bama didn't prepare for the 2002 game
Yeah, and on the flip side I don't think Auburn prepared very well for Bama in 2001. So we're even in that regard.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:19 am to The Spleen
I agree. 2001 and 2002 were mirror almost mirror images of each team just not even showing up or giving a shite.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:26 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Didn't AU have a chance to win the division with a win in 2001?
That was a strange year because both teams played the following week due to 9/11.
That was a strange year because both teams played the following week due to 9/11.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:40 am to FairhopeTider
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Didn't AU have a chance to win the division with a win in 2001?
Yes we did. We ended up "Co Champs" but lost to you and LSU at the end of the season. Then went on to the Peach bowl and got beat up by North Carolina...
Was at the Iron bowl that year and left mad. Real mad
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:40 am to CrimsonCoast
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Is there a way to look up historical point spreads?
A team favored by 10 pts wins 80% of the time.
But I think this game usually is closer than the line (except a few times AU just quit).
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:41 am to FairhopeTider
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Didn't AU have a chance to win the division with a win in 2001? That was a strange year because both teams played the following week due to 9/11.
We were almost a lock to win the division. We were 5-1 in the SEC going into that game.
The loss to bama dropped us to 5-2, then the next week we lost to LSU to drop us to 5-3. At 5-3 we finished as co-champs with LSU. We also had a loss to Syracuse, so LSU went to Atl and we went on to lose the Peach Bowl in Atl.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
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1989 - #11 Auburn 30-20 vs #2 Alabama (@AU)
1990 - Alabama 16-7 vs #20 Auburn (LF @UA)
i don't think 1989 was an upset because it was the first Iron Bowl in Auburn ever. Alabama had overachieved that year and Auburn had underachieved.
I think Auburn was finally realizing how good they could really be at the time while Alabama realized they were in over their heads.
other than the spectacular play of Keith McCants, the Alabama defense had a real tough time stopping Auburn that game.
Auburn's defense was pretty stout that year with Craig Ogletree and Quentin Riggins leading the way. I remember Alabama playing pretty well in the 1st half but the second half was no contest.
the 1990 game wasn't a surprise either in my opinion. The Alabama defense entered that game on tear and Auburn really never had much of a chance in that game. They jumped on them early and set the tone.
the Auburn offense had hit a big skid before that game so watching them struggle in that one wasn't surprising.
Alabama's offense had been depleted with injuries to Stacy, Sanderson, and Wimbley but they still had Lamonde Russell, Kevin Turner, and Derrick Lassic.
I think the big difference that year was that Alabama had an All-American kicker in Philip Doyle and he delivered that day with 3 field goals.
Alabama used the kicking game and good defense to beat a team that was struggling on offense. Auburn was still kinda riding their preseason rankings in the polls that year but it was clear that they weren't the same team by the time they played Alabama.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:46 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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1984, 1990, 2001, and 2002 have been the only real upsets in the past 35 years.
Don't care about what the betting line is or the rankings.
The 4 I mentioned are the only ones in 35 years when the team that was definitely better lost.
Really? You don't consider 1985 a major upset?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:47 am to LooseCannon22282
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i don't think 1989 was an upset because it was the first Iron Bowl in Auburn ever. Alabama had overachieved that year and Auburn had underachieved. I think Auburn was finally realizing how good they could really be at the time while Alabama realized they were in over their heads. other than the spectacular play of Keith McCants, the Alabama defense had a real tough time stopping Auburn that game. Auburn's defense was pretty stout that year with Craig Ogletree and Quentin Riggins leading the way. I remember Alabama playing pretty well in the 1st half but the second half was no contest. the 1990 game wasn't a surprise either in my opinion. The Alabama defense entered that game on tear and Auburn really never had much of a chance in that game. They jumped on them early and set the tone. the Auburn offense had hit a big skid before that game so watching them struggle in that one wasn't surprising. Alabama's offense had been depleted with injuries to Stacy, Sanderson, and Wimbley but they still had Lamonde Russell, Kevin Turner, and Derrick Lassic. I think the big difference that year was that Alabama had an All-American kicker in Philip Doyle and he delivered that day with 3 field goals. Alabama used the kicking game and good defense to beat a team that was struggling on offense. Auburn was still kinda riding their preseason rankings in the polls that year but it was clear that they weren't the same team by the time they played Alabama.
Pretty accurate. 1989 was not even close to an upset. I think AU was actually favored though bama was undefeated and #2. AU was not going to lose that one and pretty much destroyed bama after halftime.
1990 wasn't really either. Stallings was a hell of a coach and defensively his teams were awesome. AU got up to about #3 in the polls after upsetting a very good FSU team, but then got blow out by 35 in the swamp against Spurrier in his first year and went into a tailspin.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:48 am to skrayper
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Really? You don't consider 1985 a major upset?
Hell fricking no. Bama was the better team in 1985. They were really good. AU was not a good team in 1985. AU was a one man show with Bo Jackson and that was about it.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:49 am to allin2010
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Bama never upsets Auburn, interesting...
We haven't had very many opportunities to be the underdog.
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