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Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:14 am to TeLeFaWx
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Aggie greatness
I'll ask that you qualify this since it is not quantifiable.
Coker's arm is stronger. See how that works?
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:15 am to Dlab2013
quote:I thought LSU had elite DBs?
Gus' HS system will fail when JJ encounters elite DBs unless he can run
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:17 am to nc14
So is Swag's for that matter
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:18 am to joeyb147
Jj won't have 4 seconds to scan the field this year :pump:
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:18 am to Patton
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:24 am to Prof
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Thanks Weagle. If you can get at least one of those guys to step up then Duke will have a much bigger year. Not many teams can lock down both sides of the field.
Under JJ you'll see a lot more of the check down passes to the RBs and HBacks, as well. Jovon Robinson, Roc Thomas and Peyton Barber are all very good at catching the ball out of the backfield.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:28 am to joeyb147
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I thought LSU had elite DBs?
We Do. That DB got processed.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:29 am to Dlab2013
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Auburn won games with Marshalls legs...........Gus' HS system will fail when JJ encounters elite DBs unless he can run.
I agree with this. Add in the fact that Auburn will only have one elite WR this year whereas last year they had two. And they lost the speedy deep threat who really stretched the field, to boot.
Then of course you're looking at an Auburn defense that completely collapsed down the stretch last year. Muschamp or no, their lack of depth up the middle will not be fixed next year.
Idk I'm not buying the hype on this guy or on Auburn right now.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:59 am to DMagic
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Is greatness 8-5?
Meh. Allen only lost to Chavis and the SEC East Champs. 13 TDs and 5 INTs in his first 5 starts. Didn't lose his Bowl game against a Big 12 team like Bo. Beat Auburn unlike Bo.
Aggie greatness uses context.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:00 am to nc14
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I'll ask that you qualify this since it is not quantifiable.
Coker's arm is stronger. See how that works?
Meh. Kyle Allen was clocked with a faster fastball than Coker. So that's quantifiable with a radar gun.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:01 am to Brunedog
JJ looks good in garbage time and in that game when Marshall was suspended, but Dak led State to 10 wins and an Orange Bowl last year. JJ could be better than him, but for now it's Dak without question.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:22 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
Also factor in the fact that Auburn lost its deep threat WR, two primary RBs, a couple TEs, and a four-year starter at C.
This tells me three things about Auburn's offense:
1) Opponents will be able to rush the passer more than before.
Marshall's mobility really limited opposing pass rushes. So Johnson can run a little. He can't run like Marshall. DEs can run down a 4.55 guy (and a 4.55 guy in college is really a 4.7 guy in the combine). They typically can't run down a legit sub-4.5 guy like Marshall.
2) Auburn's offense will be more limited in what it can do.
Let's not underestimate the impact of Coates. The guy was a great deep threat and really stretched the field. This year, they'll rely on Duke Johnson, who is a great receiver but not the same kind of deep threat.
Factor in the loss of Artis-Payne and Auburn's lost their two most potent offense weapons on top of Marshall.
3) They will miss their role players.
Auburn will go to the dink-and-dunk, which works best when the team is highly coordinated (Dismukes) and has experienced role players (Uzomah, Folse, Grant). They will need new role players and those guys won't have the experience.
This tells me three things about Auburn's offense:
1) Opponents will be able to rush the passer more than before.
Marshall's mobility really limited opposing pass rushes. So Johnson can run a little. He can't run like Marshall. DEs can run down a 4.55 guy (and a 4.55 guy in college is really a 4.7 guy in the combine). They typically can't run down a legit sub-4.5 guy like Marshall.
2) Auburn's offense will be more limited in what it can do.
Let's not underestimate the impact of Coates. The guy was a great deep threat and really stretched the field. This year, they'll rely on Duke Johnson, who is a great receiver but not the same kind of deep threat.
Factor in the loss of Artis-Payne and Auburn's lost their two most potent offense weapons on top of Marshall.
3) They will miss their role players.
Auburn will go to the dink-and-dunk, which works best when the team is highly coordinated (Dismukes) and has experienced role players (Uzomah, Folse, Grant). They will need new role players and those guys won't have the experience.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:44 am to TxTiger82
We have a deep threat in Louis and Burton. JJ can run alot better than people think it just hasnt been shown. Our play book will also open up having a qb that can make all the throws. Dismukes will be missed but we have a good player to replace him and Fulse is the reason our run game suffered he coudnt block in space and now we have two H backs that can so it should actually be better, the Gus bus will keep rolling
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:50 am to TxTiger82
quote:I was told we only ran 3 plays with NM at qb and now I'm being told we are going to be even more limited. Going to be a rough year if you are right.
2) Auburn's offense will be more limited in what it can do.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:51 am to WDE24
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:59 am to DMagic
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Is greatness 8-5?
Well for Ole Miss I guess...
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:07 am to TxTiger82
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1) Opponents will be able to rush the passer more than before.
Marshall's mobility really limited opposing pass rushes. So Johnson can run a little. He can't run like Marshall. DEs can run down a 4.55 guy (and a 4.55 guy in college is really a 4.7 guy in the combine). They typically can't run down a legit sub-4.5 guy like Marshall.
2) Auburn's offense will be more limited in what it can do.
Let's not underestimate the impact of Coates. The guy was a great deep threat and really stretched the field. This year, they'll rely on Duke Johnson, who is a great receiver but not the same kind of deep threat.
Factor in the loss of Artis-Payne and Auburn's lost their two most potent offense weapons on top of Marshall.
3) They will miss their role players.
While you may be right, I tend to doubt it. Dismukes hurts the most, but having Kozan back on the Oline will give us a physical push that was lacking last year.
Roc and Jovon can come in and take CAP's place at RB. I do not mean any disrespect towards CAP --- he did a great job, but we are still looking good at RB.
One of the things we missed most on offense last year was a guy like Prosch. We are looking much better in that regard this year and that can only help the offense.
Sammie will be missed, but there are WR waiting to make a play there ... if only that can start catching consistently it will be a lethal combo.
Our biggest concern is defense, but I doubt that can get any worse than last year.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:35 am to TxTiger82
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Auburn lost its deep threat WR, two primary RBs, a couple TEs, and a four-year starter at C.
WR: Yes Sammy was great at stretching a defense and his athleticism will be missed, but that is why we recruit other receivers and we will be able to stretch the field even more this year because of a better passing QB.
RB: Everyone said we couldn't replace Tre and now people are saying we can't replace CAP. Watch and learn. Our RB's will be very good this year. Jovon, Roc, and Barber will run through, around, and all over opposing defenses. Auburn will have one of the best rushing teams again in 2015.
TE's: Our TE is not a huge loss and by the sound of it we will be fine. Our H Back is much more important and it looks good at that position this year over last.
C: Tough to fill a spot vacated by the Rimington winner, but our new center will be solid and have experience around him other than the RG position where King Kong will be playing.
Auburn's offense will be as potent as ever. The only question will be if our defense is going to jump in and help win games this year.
Only thing left for you to do is fasten your seatbelt, keep your hands and feet inside, and enjoy the ride.
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