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re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level

Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:32 pm to
Norte Dame bitch
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71153 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:37 pm to
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OK, but even if we had somehow been able to play ourselves and lost (which would also mean we won, wouldn't it?), that still would have been four, which is more than the three you claim as the maximum any SEC team could win.


But it's not possible, is it. Arkansas is the only team that could play that schedule, and I stand by my previous assessment of three wins, max. Two if they play Toledo. In case it's still not clear, I'm including OOC in those wins.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71153 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:42 pm to
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then go 6-0 against the big 10


Or 2-2.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:44 pm to
There are 3 teams in the sec west that would win the pac 12 and probably 1 that would win the big 10.

Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11584 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:49 pm to
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Unless you are Alabama, LSU, or Florida, just shut up.


Auburn always getting left out...it is like 2004 all over again
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71153 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:57 pm to
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Auburn always getting left out...it is like 2004 all over again


Nope, it's like 2015 all over again.
Posted by E.Hubble
Athens
Member since Jul 2013
1720 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:57 pm to
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they play TWO games all year against teams that have any hope of beating them


Ohio state lost to Va.Tech at home last season. A&M plays 4 tough games maybe. That's a whole 1 game more than the buckeyes.

If you look at the schedule and see 5+ "big" games, you probably aren't cheering for a playoff team anyway.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:06 pm to
Here's the way I like to compare conferences...Take the top 10 teams in order and match them against the top 10 teams in another conference. Here is a hypothetical:

Ole Miss v Ohio State
Georgia v Mich State
LSU v Wisconsin
A&M v Northwestern
bama v Iowa
Florida v Michigan
State v Penn State?
UK v Minnesota?
Auburn v Nebraska?

What would the record be if those ten games were played on neutral sites? I say 8-2 favoring the SEC.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:14 pm to
Ole Miss v Ohio State
Georgia v Mich State
LSU v Wisconsin
A&M v Northwestern
bama v Iowa
Florida v Michigan
State v Penn State
UK v Minnesota
Auburn v Nebraska

wait, is this not the pickem thread?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71153 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:14 pm to
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Here's the way I like to compare conferences...Take the top 10 teams in order and match them against the top 10 teams in another conference. Here is a hypothetical:

Ole Miss v Ohio State
Georgia v Mich State
LSU v Wisconsin
A&M v Northwestern
bama v Iowa
Florida v Michigan
State v Penn State?
UK v Minnesota?
Auburn v Nebraska?

What would the record be if those ten games were played on neutral sites? I say 8-2 favoring the SEC.


Did you leave one off, or just pull 8-2 out of your arse.

With those I'd say 5-4 or 4-5 with Auburn Nebraska being a coin flip.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11584 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:15 pm to
Ole Miss v Ohio State - OSU would destroy Ole Miss
Georgia v Mich State - UGA
LSU v Wisconsin - LSU
A&M v Northwestern -A&M...hate typing it but true
bama v Iowa - LOL
Florida v Michigan - toss up
State v Penn State? -State
UK v Minnesota? - Kentucky
Auburn v Nebraska? - Nebraska???
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62734 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:17 pm to
TBH, the SEC needs to pipe down a bit for the moment.
Of the Power 5 conferences, the SEC collectively has played against other power 5 conferences the least. Only 7 games so far in '15. Contrast to the B1G having played 19.
Plus , as a conference we're losing, or nearly losing , to mediocre to pathetic teams. The biggest stand out win, aTm over ASU, is tainted since ASU lost another game badly. The next biggest win? Maybe Bama s over Wisconsin, but that doesn't make headlines.
Sure, I think the SEC is the strongest conference, but I really don't have anything to support my beliefs.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83439 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:29 pm to
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Ohio State would destroy some SEC teams dude. Just because they don't face many worthy opponents doesn't mean their coaching staff and team aren't excellent.
You're damn right they would. They're good. But damn, they wouldn't make the NC near as often as they do(which isn't THAT often).

If a team in the Big 12 or ACC has 3 NC caliber teams in a decade and makes it all 3 times, you HAVE to think at least 1, maybe 2 or 3 of them would slip up and lose if they played Alabama, Auburn, LSU, aTm, and the Mississippi schools(plus a team or 2 from the east). 2013 FSU was awesome. But it would have been extremely hard for them to go through the SEC without a loss that year. It's not that other conferences don't have NC caliber teams, they do. But many of those teams would lose in the SEC, just like NC caliber teams in the SEC who slip up and don't make it almost every year.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:36 pm to
It's like they took a knife and cut the stadium in half. Bama on one side and LSU on the other. Pretty much dead even. We had alot more presence in the city though.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83439 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:36 pm to
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Pre Meyer OSU wasn't the same, though. I'll agree this OSU team in the SEC would be a top contender for a playoff.
Same with 2013 FSU. That team was fricking awesome. They'd probably be the favorite to win the west if they were in it. But Jesus, that's all they would have been. They would have had to get through the schedule just like all the past west winners and runner-ups. They might have had a what...30? 40? 50% chance to run the table in the west? They had damn near a 100% chance to win the ACC that year. That's a damn joke.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83439 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:41 pm to
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Did LSU play themselves?


No, they replaced themselves with Oregon and WVU.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:42 pm to
The sec is the better conference but the gap between them isn't as big as most SEC fans think.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:43 pm to
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There are 6-7 SEC teams most years who could win 10+ games in the PAC 


Hell no.
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Big 10. 

Probably.



The PAC 12 is pretty deep.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:46 pm to
Meh Pac 12 isn't all that great.


Alabama
LSU
UGA
Ole Miss
A&M
All definitely win it this year

MSU
UF
UK
Would all be competitive with a chance to win it.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 7:46 pm to
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LSU went undefeated in 2011 with a much tougher schedule than that.


Actually 2011 sec was down
outside of arky bama and lsu.
Hell in 2011 by the end of the regular season Bama had 2 wins over top 25 teams.
Lsu's 2011 schedule was hard because of our ooc schedule of Oregon and West va.
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