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re: If your sport team has the best player, doesn't it stand to reason..
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:00 am to LelandSU
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:00 am to LelandSU
Why are people talking about basketball as if it were an exception? Just in the last 10 years, only two POY winners led their teams to the NCAA title -- Anthony Davis and Tyler Hansbrough. Basketball is hardly an exception to the team rule.
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:08 am to dreaux
I am a bigger Tebow fan than most. But it wasn't just Tebow on those Gator teams. He was surrounded with some amazing talent that helped a lot haha.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:12 am to randomways
A single player can easily carry a team in a sport like basketball, unlike in sports like golf or bungee jumping.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:14 am to GatorReb
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I am a bigger Tebow fan than most. But it wasn't just Tebow on those Gator teams. He was surrounded with some amazing talent that helped a lot haha.
Really. Between players like Spikes and Harvin, Tebow wasn't even the most talented player on the team.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:18 am to LelandSU
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A single player can easily carry a team in a sport like basketball, unlike in sports like golf or bungee jumping.
In theory. But I was pointing out that the "best player" rarely carries a team to winning the championship (the topic of the thread), and even more rarely does so by himself. Even the two I named were surrounded by enormous talent. For every Danny Manning, you have dozens of teams that would never get a title if they had to depend on one player.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:18 am to randomways
The Pouncey twins were two All-Pro linemen on those teams. They were the best players on those teams but O-linemen don't get much talk in football.
They also had Joe Haden, arguably the best corner in football.
Tebow was exposed in the NFL.
They also had Joe Haden, arguably the best corner in football.
Tebow was exposed in the NFL.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:20 am to Volmanac
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The Pouncey twins were two All-Pro linemen on those teams. They were the best players on those teams but O-linemen don't get much talk in football.
They also had Joe Haden, arguably the best corner in football.
Which is true, and good points. I just brought up the first two names that occurred to me without giving it more thought.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:26 am to randomways
Ummm...you seriously took my comment seriously? Ham was just playing with people with his post. This just isn't a serious thread.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:38 am to LelandSU
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Ummm...you seriously took my comment seriously? Ham was just playing with people with his post. This just isn't a serious thread.
Ummmm...yes? You gave no indication you were joking, and plenty of people believe exactly what you were saying.
Or are we playing the "I said something easily rebutted and now I'm joking" game?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:45 am to randomways
Golf isn't a team sport. Bungee jumping isn't a sport. And, from my post just before, the Birmingham Midget Gumps isn't a real team. Get it?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:12 am to LelandSU
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Golf isn't a team sport.
In college, it actually is. Players win individually, but teams win collectively. If one player falters, the team suffers. So one player can help make or break a team, but it's a team effort. Hell, SEC teams have won the national title, iirc. Or are you, um, joking about how collegiate golf works too? Perhaps I get it better than you do? I just assumed the bungee jumping was you being pointlessly sarcastic.
Look, if it's important enough to you to act like a dick, it's way more important to you than it is to me. I was making an observation about team sports. So kindly frick off. Thanks.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:52 am to randomways
What kind of person sits at their computer swearing at people in the middle of the night? Chill, bro.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 3:33 am to GatorReb
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I am a bigger Tebow fan than most. But it wasn't just Tebow on those Gator teams. He was surrounded with some amazing talent that helped a lot haha.
and Urban Meyer as coach
Posted on 5/29/15 at 5:37 am to sabes que
It doesnt work in basketball either folks. If that were true wed be looking at 5 natties in 5 years. Does it help your chances more than in football or baseball? Well sure, but only because of simple math. Less players = more impact by one guy.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:00 am to I Ham That I Ham
Mike Ditka and Gale Sayers 1970 Chicago Bears says hi
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:17 am to I Ham That I Ham
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your team should be the favorite to win said sport's championship?
Yes...for singles Tennis, Golf and Gymnastics...
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:21 am to I Ham That I Ham
Not when you have shitty coaching.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:23 am to randomways
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I am a bigger Tebow fan than most. But it wasn't just Tebow on those Gator teams. He was surrounded with some amazing talent that helped a lot haha.
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Really. Between players like Spikes and Harvin, Tebow wasn't even the most talented player on the team.
Don't forget Hernandez...he was killing people from the TE position.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:31 am to I Ham That I Ham
You said the two key words.
"Player".
"Team".
Yet still you don't seem to comprehend the critical difference?
"Player".
"Team".
Yet still you don't seem to comprehend the critical difference?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:44 am to I Ham That I Ham
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that your team should be the favorite to win said sport's championship?
Yes. Arkansas baseball = massive failures. This is nothing new though.
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