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re: If you had to choose between Meyer and Saban, who would you pick?
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:08 am to bamasgot13
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:08 am to bamasgot13
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Meyer has never had to build a bad team. He walked into a LOADED Florida team with 20 of the 22 starters on his first title team being recruited by Zook. He walked into a LOADED aOSU team as well.
He CAN recruit, but he's walked into great programs with great talent that he could use to sell to other recruits. Saban's first Bama team has ZERO players drafted. He built at Bama and LSU.
No doubt. Zook was a brilliant recruiter despite being a doofus hc, and I think Ohio State would've been preseason #1 for 2011 if not for tattoo stuff and Tressel getting fired.
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:12 am to bucknut
Meyer
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:14 am to Bama3714
quote:Solid post. I didn't know about the UF coed part...
Saban, but it's close. Both guys learn and adjust. According to everyone around him, he seems to have the edge back. He's extremely determined to get back to being physical, and the team getting the edge back. The offensive line recruiting since Cristobal has been there is evidence of that. It has been otherworldly. It will be very interesting to see the recruiting change in philosophy to defend the Spread come to fruition on the field this year (first year we've really had the guys to do it). What's funny to me, though, is that you guys still buy the story about Meyer's nervous breakdown. ROFL. His issue was having a little too much fun with a UF coed. Both guys are great. What people overlook is how much easier it is to be the hunter than the hunted. OSU was EASILY the most hungry team this year. That was very obvious in their play. FSU seems like they had that edge in 2013, and didn't have it with everybody back in 2014. It's a HUGE deal. It will be very difficult for OSU to play with the same edge that they did at the end of this past year. Unless Harbaugh and Franklin can eventually develop those programs into elite competition, Meyer will run wild in that conference. It will be a matter of winning two game at the end of the year every year. In that sense, he has a MASSIVE edge, and will likely wind up with more NCs than Saban. Not much Saban can do about that. His conference competition will prevent being able to keep up. Never before has anyone had a better situation than OSU and FSU have now. Elite SEC-level programs in jokes of conferences. I admit it. The last part of that makes me jealous.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:21 am to bamasgot13
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I love how LSU fans feel like they know everything there is to know about Saban based on their 5 years with him 11 years ago. He's going into year 9 at Bama. Which fanbase do you think has a greater sample size from which to evaluate him? The one that has had double the exposure and the more recent exposure, or the jilted lover than more than a decade later still hasn't gotten over it?
Maybe he has learned from his past and became a better father since living in Miami and BAMA, but I don't think that saying was ever used to describe NS when he was in Baton Rouge.
His son absolutely hated him when he was in high school (probably goes for a lot of teenage boys), and turned into a drug abuser. Saban was known to essentially live at the Football Operations Center, he didn't spend much time with his family.
You can say what you want, but the above is 100% fact.
ETA: And I don't have anything against NS, he is a great football coach, and enjoys the challenge that comes with it, which is why he works so hard at it. He's a perfectionist. But because of his obsession with being the best football coach to live, his family life suffered.
And to answer the OP, Nick Saban. He will work his arse of for as long as he coaches, and I can't see him giving up anytime soon.
Urban Meyer is a scumbag and will abandon ship as soon as shite hits the fan. And it will happen. Reminds me of Pete Carroll.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:36 am to RT1941
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I didn't know about the UF coed part...
That's because it was a stupid rumor.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:38 am to Manzielathon
saban
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:51 am to Buckeye06
quote:True, but he had the best qb in the nation and the best playmaker. Meyer wanted to be head and shoulders above everyone else. Once someone came in, Saban, that could out recruit him and get in his shite he quit. That is taking the easy way out. Running instead of trying to figure how to beat him. He ran
He won 2 national titles in the SEC. How is that winning the easy way? Unless if you're saying the SEC 2006-2008 was easy of course Sometimes you guys say stuff just cause you hate someone and it just is blatantly false He was 65-15 and 36-12 in the SEC in 6 years. .750 SEC winning percentage in the "best conference" in college football.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:00 am to bucknut
Tough choice. Saban is scum but Meyer is superscum. I would rather go with Saban. Meyer is pure evil the way he coached Hernandez to kill people.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:02 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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geauxnavybeatbama
"Shuddup bitch, go fix me sammich."
I bet you hear that a lot.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:04 am to Whiznot
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Tough choice. Saban is scum but Meyer is superscum. I would rather go with Saban. Meyer is pure evil the way he coached Hernandez to kill people.
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Georgia Fan
Well that explains it.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:05 am to bamasgot13
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I love how LSU fans feel like they know everything there is to know about Saban based on their 5 years with him 11 years ago. He's going into year 9 at Bama.
Which fanbase do you think has a greater sample size from which to evaluate him? The one that has had double the exposure and the more recent exposure, or the jilted lover than more than a decade later still hasn't gotten over it?
Fans, College Football Fans in particular, can be really stupid and naive. I don't have anything against Nick Saban. He's a damn good Football Coach. However, there are so many dumbass Fans that want to believe their coach is some God Like Figure that can do no wrong. It's simply hilarious.
Nick enjoyed a lot of Candy while he was here in Baton Rouge. People think Little Debbies was his favorite treat, but Candy, was by far his favorite.
I'm not going to get into his kids, because they really should be off limits on a message board. But anyone that thinks Nick is a good father is just plain ignorant and dumb.
Nick is, however, a great football coach.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:08 am to bucknut
Neither. These two along with the Louisville coach would be unemployed, if it were up to me.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:10 am to bucknut
Saban. Arkansas plays in the SEC and Meyer has proven he can't handle the pressure of the SEC.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:15 am to Korin
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That's because it was a stupid rumor.
You sure about that? When boosters are spreading that 'rumor' it feels a bit more credible.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:28 am to absolute692
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Maybe he has learned from his past and became a better father since living in Miami and BAMA, but I don't think that saying was ever used to describe NS when he was in Baton Rouge.
You mean in the 16 years that have past since he first got to Baton Rogue and his son was an early teenager and his daughter was 9, he might have become a better father? Shocking. Again, 11 years have past since LSU fans had any regular interaction with this family yet some of you still behave like jilted lovers every chance you get.
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His son absolutely hated him when he was in high school (probably goes for a lot of teenage boys)
Probably. Doesn't seem to hate him now, for sure.
As for Kristen, she definitely seems to hate him. He's such a horrible dad.
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Tammany Tom
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Nick enjoyed a lot of Candy while he was here in Baton Rouge. People think Little Debbies was his favorite treat, but Candy, was by far his favorite.
We get it. He, allegedly, screwed around with Candy Edwards while in Baton Rogue. I can tell you a few things:
1) Terry has stayed married to him for 43+ years, so she obviously is either complicit or viewed it as an isolated incident and forgave him.
2) In 9+ years at Alabama - and an area where secrets are virtually impossible to keep - there has never been a hint of a rumor of him stepping out on Terry. It would seem, just as you rush to judgement based on those experiences in 5 years in BR, that one in Bama could rush to judgement and say he's been faithful while here.
Saban is far from perfect as a person, but based on my own limited experience around him and those experiences of people I know, he isn't the horrible person many try to paint him as, either. That's all I'm saying.
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:41 am to bucknut
Meyer.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:41 am to bamasgot13
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bamasgot13
Just enjoy the fact that you have a great football coach. Nobody gives a frick if he is a nice guy or not. btw, you can't be as successful as Nick is and be a nice guy.
I will never understand why fans have to paint their coach as some Mother Theresa.
For the record.... We have a lot of fans that do the same thing in regards to Miles. It's really dumb.
Again, I have nothing against Saban. He's a great coach. But, there is no reason for fans to put their freaking coaches on these ridiculous pedestals.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:43 am to MontyFranklyn
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Running instead of trying to figure how to beat him.
I dunno, I think he got things figured out.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:44 am to gussler
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You sure about that? When boosters are spreading that 'rumor' it feels a bit more credible.
A booster said it? Well then it MUST be true.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:46 am to Tammany Tom
Yep. I don't even necessarily like Meyer. I don't know him and I don't care to. As long as he's winning and staying within the rules, I'm good.
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