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re: If you had to choose between Meyer and Saban, who would you pick?

Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:40 pm to
I feel really bad because you really have no idea what has transpired. You create your own narrative, misquote and misappropriate comments, and then name call. At least you have pretty quality grammar, but your content is just horrid. But Go GATA, Roll Tide, and please see a therapist.
Posted by Alert Mi
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 9:46 pm to
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I feel really bad because you really have no idea what has transpired. You create your own narrative, misquote and misappropriate comments, and then name call. At least you have pretty quality grammar, but your content is just horrid. But Go GATA, Roll Tide, and please see a therapist.


That was very insulting and rude, worst I've ever seen. Please refrain from further attacks.

Accept this Go GATA in the spirit that is was given. Roll Tide!
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 9:49 pm to
RMFTOTA GATA
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5137 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 2:31 am to
It's far more than internet rumor. It's the reason he left UF. He actually had no choice in the matter.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 3:26 am to
miles
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 3:45 am to
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he bounced around like a street preaching kook for several months after that doing things that bug-eyed, mentally insane people do.


Well, if you work for Jeremy Foley long enough...
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22702 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 3:49 am to
I'll go with Saban unless he loses 5 games this year and then fakes health issues as a means of leaving the sport.

Saban has done a pretty good job at sustaining success at Alabama. Have won 10 or more games a year since 2008.

Have only seen the opposite of that from Urban. If he's able to sustain the success at Ohio St, I'd give him a think, but not til then and not over Saban. 5 Championships is probably what Florida thought too.

Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5776 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 4:00 am to
Bro, are you ok?
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5776 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 4:05 am to
Who looks worse? Definitely Nick.
Posted by Hunter82378
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2014
817 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 4:17 am to
Good husband??? He said openly that he would F$&@ Hillary ( ugly as dog a$$ knats) Clinton!! I'll agree with you on the good coach thing !!
Posted by JohnForney
Member since May 2015
957 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 4:25 am to
Saban. OSU got to play Bama's worst team since 2007 last year. Based on Meyer's tendencies, He will disappoint this year. Winning back to back titles is tough for any coach and team because of the motivation factor. OSU will lose at least 3 games this year.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 5:06 am to
I see you trollin
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:27 am to
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Saban, but it's close. Both guys learn and adjust. According to everyone around him, he seems to have the edge back. He's extremely determined to get back to being physical, and the team getting the edge back. The offensive line recruiting since Cristobal has been there is evidence of that. It has been otherworldly. It will be very interesting to see the recruiting change in philosophy to defend the Spread come to fruition on the field this year (first year we've really had the guys to do it). What's funny to me, though, is that you guys still buy the story about Meyer's nervous breakdown. ROFL. His issue was having a little too much fun with a UF coed. Both guys are great. What people overlook is how much easier it is to be the hunter than the hunted. OSU was EASILY the most hungry team this year. That was very obvious in their play. FSU seems like they had that edge in 2013, and didn't have it with everybody back in 2014. It's a HUGE deal. It will be very difficult for OSU to play with the same edge that they did at the end of this past year. Unless Harbaugh and Franklin can eventually develop those programs into elite competition, Meyer will run wild in that conference. It will be a matter of winning two game at the end of the year every year. In that sense, he has a MASSIVE edge, and will likely wind up with more NCs than Saban. Not much Saban can do about that. His conference competition will prevent being able to keep up. Never before has anyone had a better situation than OSU and FSU have now. Elite SEC-level programs in jokes of conferences. I admit it. The last part of that makes me jealous.

Solid post
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Meyer has never had to build a bad team. He walked into a LOADED Florida team with 20 of the 22 starters on his first title team being recruited by Zook. He walked into a LOADED aOSU team as well. He CAN recruit, but he's walked into great programs with great talent that he could use to sell to other recruits. Saban's first Bama team has ZERO players drafted. He built at Bama and LSU.


Yep, I'll take a program builder like Saban any day of the week. He makes something from nothing, and when Saban leaves. All it takes is having an above average HC to be successful, and it'd take an idiot to mess up what Saban leaves behind. The programs foundation is strong after Saban is done, is all I'm saying. This doesn't only take place on the field either! Your football players/program will have the tools available to be very successful on & off the fiel after Saban gets done. Plus, every team/program will have a few trouble makers among them, but a Meyer lead program, will go full gangster before it's all said and done. No thanks, I'll pass....

To answer the question.... I'll take all the titles Saban would win while at my favorite program, and then will appreciate the titles Saban leaves behind when he's done. It's a no brainier at this point in time...... :)

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53842 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:30 am to
But you never know when urban may quit on you.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:50 am to
Oh yeah,
Saban has never had a Tebow or Jones to lead one of his college teams. It's much easier to win when one has superman leading things among boys. It's quite astonishing that Saban has won as much as he has with QB's like John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, AJ McCarron, and Blake Sims. Just typing that Bama QB list makes my jaw drop to the floor in disbelief. 3 National Titles with those QB's during one of the most compeditive times in SEC football. Wow!!!! kudos to Saban for all that.....

The fact Saban has been very successful with average QB's behind center says a bunch. More than not, it takes having a great QB to win titles in CFB. Having QB's like Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, and Cardale Jones complete the ingredients for a National title team. Meyer should know this fact because he's had some of these QB's during this era. Kudos to Meyer for having a nice eye for QB talent though. Oh yeah, he didn't recruit any of those guys to his programs. Did he? Think they were already there and ready to go. One has to ask then. Could an average coach win with Tebow and Jones type QB's behind center too? Well.... I guess we have a answer to that very question. Chizk won with Cam Newton, didn't he?
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 8:04 am
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 10:12 am to
So AJ McCarron wasn't a great qb?
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 10:17 am to
This is a silly thread there is no measurable way anyone could justify not taking Saban. Meyer would be the #2 pick, but he hasn't accomplished near what Saban has accomplished.
Posted by LowCountryBuckeye
Member since Jul 2015
263 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 11:02 am to
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Saban. OSU got to play Bama's worst team since 2007 last year. Based on Meyer's tendencies, He will disappoint this year. Winning back to back titles is tough for any coach and team because of the motivation factor. OSU will lose at least 3 games this year.


That's the Bama narrative anyways..almost as childish as Saban's whining about his players not playing.

Bama returns 12 starters and 7 of the other 12 were drafted by the NFL. They are the worst since 2007 in your eyes because they got stomped. Ohio State was just as good as any National Champion since 2006.

oh btw...the Ohio State 2014 team..worst Ohio State team since 2006...there..it was even.
Posted by LowCountryBuckeye
Member since Jul 2015
263 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 11:10 am to
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It's far more than internet rumor. It's the reason he left UF. He actually had no choice in the matter.


dude..you're psychotic. Noone with half a brain believes that bullshite. you're confused with terry Bowden circa 1998...you need to see a professional..there's therapy and good drugs that can cure you
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:42 am to
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So AJ McCarron wasn't a great qb?


AJ was solid for us, and I loved his time here, but if anyone thinks he was a Tebow, Cam, or Jones CFB QB, they're delusional.....

3 of those 4 QB listed above could take over games all by themselves. AJ, not so much.....

This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 6:48 am
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