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re: If the SEC adds Clemson and FSU, I think that'll be the end of SEC expansion

Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25490 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:31 pm to
These super conferences will be for football only
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
1937 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:22 pm to
You didn’t answer my question. What school do you support?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26274 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:27 pm to
I don’t want any more expansion.

Give me my Power5 back

Give me my SEC West and SEC East back.

This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 8:53 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:34 pm to
The SEC needs to expand out of the South if it wants to survive, let alone keep up.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26274 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

The SEC needs to expand out of the South if it wants to survive


Lol

How cute!
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 8:54 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30353 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:00 pm to
Cool.

When does contraction start?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72975 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:03 pm to
The Big 8, including Texas and OU, will be the real players down the stretch.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72975 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

The SEC needs to expand out of the South if it wants to survive, let alone keep up.


The South per capita produces the most elite athletes in the country. We will be just fine.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:24 pm to
UNC and Virginia are the best two additions. Then Florida State. Then Kansas.

Two South Carolina schools would be a giant waste. Being the undisputed best basketball conference in the history of college sports would be worth 5% of the conference membership.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20423 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

quote:

SEC adds Clemson



Why?
Because they don't want the Big 10 to get them. Or Florida State, for that matter.

Think about it- the true advantage the SEC has over the Big 10 is the stranglehold on Southern athletes. Only Ohio State, which is both a factory and kinda on the SEC's Northern border, puts out anything equivalent to what you see at Alabama, UGA, LSU, and Florida.
But Clemson and Florida State have pipelines into that talent, and could do quite well in an expanded Big 10. Both would challenge for superiority there, and give Southern kids an option into the playoffs with the Big 10's slots, while staying close to home.

In the SEC, they're redundancies, dumped into a hyper-competitive recruiting environment.

A similar but different issue applies to Notre Dame. You and I may say ND doesn't fit into the SEC, but the Big 10 would be absolutely terrified of them joining. That would put a viable SEC team right in the middle of their home market.

TLDR version- the SEC will not let Fla State or Clemson go Big 10, and the Big 10 will not let Notre Dame go SEC.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25490 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:34 pm to
I support watching a quality football game every week when prices will continuously increasing. I don’t want to pay a higher premium but yet get the product of Vandy, Kentucky, Miss St and Arkansas
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
7996 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:45 pm to
Nah. They won’t take UNC without Duke, and they won’t take UVA with VA Tech.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11203 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:52 pm to
Florida State
Clemson
UNC or NC State
Va Tech
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9476 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 11:11 pm to
The Vandys and Dukes of the world will get left out at the end of the day. It’ll eventually be football only conferences.
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
1937 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 11:35 pm to
You will not answer my question. If you are a fan of an expansion school to the SEC, then you got a lesson coming. No willpower of any expansion fan base will ever kick out a charter member of this conference. The original 10 would have to act. And that is very, very unlikely to happen. Maybe your team should be kicked out for making this suggestion? But then again, you will identify who that is.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 11:38 pm
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

don’t want any more expansion. Give me my Power5 back Give me my SEC West and SEC East back.

They don’t care what fans want
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12311 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:55 am to
Clemson is the even gayer cousin of Aggie

No thanks
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
1971 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 6:35 am to
quote:

Because they don't want the Big 10 to get them.



Do you actually think the Big 10 would EVER consider inviting Clemson to their conference??

The Big 10 wouldn't give Clemson the time of day.

Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5954 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 6:39 am to
We don't need Clemson and their weird arse fanbase in the SEC.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10354 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 6:59 am to
quote:

North Carolina and UVA

These are the only ones out there worth taking. The SEC's model is "The University of ______" in the South. Clemson and Florida State add nothing. UVA and UNC are solid academically, do not threaten existing powers athletically (except maybe Kentucky basketball) and expand the footprint geographically. Most important, they are both B1G targets and adding them keeps that conference out of the South.
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