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If Saban left tomorrow, how long would a decline take?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:15 am
Since there's always a million threads every year claiming Saban's leaving, I was thinking about the hypothetical of what a post-Saban Bama would look like.
Seems to me that Bama has built into such a machine that they would compete for a national title the year after he left even if Mickey Mouse was the coach.
Clearly if (and it's a big if) they didn't hire a great coach a decline would happen eventually, but how long would it take to happen in earnest given what's currently in place? 3 years? 5 years? 7 years?
Seems to me that Bama has built into such a machine that they would compete for a national title the year after he left even if Mickey Mouse was the coach.
Clearly if (and it's a big if) they didn't hire a great coach a decline would happen eventually, but how long would it take to happen in earnest given what's currently in place? 3 years? 5 years? 7 years?
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:19 am to BranchDawg
They have enough talent in place that Ray Goff couldn't even screw it up within 4 years
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:20 am to BranchDawg
Alabama Athletic Dept. the day Saban steps down: LINK
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:21 am to BranchDawg
You need to look no further than the decline of Bama after Bear Bryant. By 1984 they had a losing season (5-6) and although they had intermittent success over the next two decades, it wasn't til Saban was hired in 2007 that the Tide fully overcame mediocrity
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:26 am to BranchDawg
Beginning 09/02/2017.
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:28 am to BranchDawg
Saban is only head coach with both NFL experience and natties. that is a huge selling point for alabama. that was a huge factor in SC getting better when Spurrier was there. SC dropped off immediately when Spurrier left.
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:39 am to Tillman
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Saban is only head coach with both NFL experience and natties. that is a huge selling point for alabama. that was a huge factor in SC getting better when Spurrier was there. SC dropped off immediately when Spurrier left.
You really need to stick to politics and avoid the football discussions. Leave that to the adults.
You're wrong on both counts.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:41 am to Tillman
Lol.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:42 am to BranchDawg
AJ McCarron will be the head coach.
He will be shirtless at all games.
His first 5 years will be 75-0 run. He will get a tat commemorating all the victories.
He will quit when his whole integument is completely covered with ink.
Then the decline will commence.
It will be a glorious decline. Multiple losing seasons.
He will be shirtless at all games.
His first 5 years will be 75-0 run. He will get a tat commemorating all the victories.
He will quit when his whole integument is completely covered with ink.
Then the decline will commence.
It will be a glorious decline. Multiple losing seasons.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:43 am to scrooster
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You're wrong on both counts.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:44 am to BranchDawg
We're the only team in the conf that has at least 1 conf title in every decade since the conf was formed. We also had 4 Southern Conf titles before the SEC was formed.
5 different coaches have won national titles at BAMA, and all but 1 of those coaches won multiple national titles.
Most bowl appearances in the country, most bowl wins in the country, etc.
Besides Ears Whitworth in the 50's and Dubose (he won the '99 SEC title and beat SOS twice in '99) we haven't really had a true decline that wasn't due to sanctions. Heck, even Bill Curry won the SEC and 10 games in 1989.
Saban will leave us stocked.
5 different coaches have won national titles at BAMA, and all but 1 of those coaches won multiple national titles.
Most bowl appearances in the country, most bowl wins in the country, etc.
Besides Ears Whitworth in the 50's and Dubose (he won the '99 SEC title and beat SOS twice in '99) we haven't really had a true decline that wasn't due to sanctions. Heck, even Bill Curry won the SEC and 10 games in 1989.
Saban will leave us stocked.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:45 am to tarzana
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You need to look no further than the decline of Bama after Bear Bryant. By 1984 they had a losing season (5-6) and although they had intermittent success over the next two decades, it wasn't til Saban was hired in 2007 that the Tide fully overcame mediocrity
Bear Bryant's last season was mediocre and he had not stockpiled the level of talent Saban has. This question was what if Saban left tomorrow, not what if he left 8 years from now and his recruiting slipped his last few seasons. If Saban leaves tomorrow you have the same situation Coker walked into at Miami.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:48 am to BranchDawg
I expect a decline similar to what LSU experienced.
Next coach will win a natty with the talent Saban left and then we will be in a tough position to make coaching changes due to that.
Next coach will win a natty with the talent Saban left and then we will be in a tough position to make coaching changes due to that.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:52 am to I Love Bama
The new Bama ad gives me hope that we won't screw it up.
In the older days, bama was bent on hiring Bryant successors except for the ones that actually won (Howard Schellenberger, Bowden).
In the older days, bama was bent on hiring Bryant successors except for the ones that actually won (Howard Schellenberger, Bowden).
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:52 am to Aman
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same situation Coker walked into at Miami
...or *gasp* Helfrich walked into at Oregon
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:53 am to RollTide4Ever
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Bryant successors except for the ones that actually won (Howard Schellenberger, Bowden, Dye).
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:59 am to scrooster
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Leave that to the adults.
says a guy whose favorite expression is 'sheep humping'.
what am I wrong about. SC's recruiting was good under Spurrier, dropped off post Spurrier.
i don't think Saban's run at Alabama is all about Saban and Alabama. The other SEC teams not been as good much of Saban's tenure as in the past. i would think at some point some of the other teams will get more competitive.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:00 am to BranchDawg
If we can find a coach better than Les Miles we will be OK. Lsu has ridden Sabans coat tails since he left and they seem to be doing alright.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:00 am to I Love Bama
If Alabama was cool they would hire a coach who would install the triple option or the wildcat and win a natty with it.
My honest guess, though, is that the NCAA will pull the trigger on all the sanctions they've been sitting on. Will probably end ugly.
My honest guess, though, is that the NCAA will pull the trigger on all the sanctions they've been sitting on. Will probably end ugly.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:02 am to BranchDawg
It's taken LSU just under a decade.
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