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re: If Russell Wilson joins an SEC team

Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:12 pm to
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not in college football. shite most 1st round draft picks only get a little above that.


Of the last 10 QBs selected #1 overall, only Vick and Stafford had under 60% completions as starting QBs...
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:15 pm to
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only Vick and Stafford had under 60% completions as starting QBs...



and Vick almost single handily saved your fantasy season... so hush
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:18 pm to
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and Vick almost single handily saved your fantasy season... so hush


Until he decided to get injured against Dallas
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:20 pm to
Wilson = Vick 2.5
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:22 pm to
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Wilson = Vick 2.5


If Wilson got me offered the same players I was offered for Vick, I'd trade him in a heartbeat.

Assuming I have Rivers still, which ironically is from NCSU also...
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 4:47 pm to
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Top returning QBs based on last years passing stats

1.Garcia
2.Bray
3.Relf
4.Brantley
5.Jefferson

And he's not significantly better than any of them.

But hey, I hope Bama goes out and gets Bryant Moniz from Hawaii, his stats are the best in the nation, so he has to be the best in the SEC.


Is this a serious statement? If so, please give me a moment to laugh hysterically before addressing it.

Ok I’m back, much better. You actually think a guy in Garcia who’s nothing but a drunken punk of a QB is better than Wilson? There’s not a more inconsistent player in the conference and he’s got the best player in the league at both WR and RB; kid is a scrub. You think a true freshmen in Bray is better than Wilson? Wilson would probably agree to play with ten offensive players instead of eleven if it meant he got one of Bray’s WRs. Relf has got to be some sort of a joke. It’s painful to even address that. Brantley and Jefferson? Now I’m done considering anything you’ve said.

Couple things:

-I live in South Carolina and as such watch quite a bit of ACC football. I’ll base everything I say off of not only stats but also having seen Wilson play 10+ times including 4 in person (twice against Clemson, once against UNC and once against VT).

-Upon joining the SEC, Wilson would easily have the quickest release of any QB in the conference and it wouldn’t be close, and his arm strength would be comparable to Murray and Tyler.

-It’s hard to describe how bad North Carolina State’s skill positions were last year. They had Mustafa Greene who emerged late and is a helluva RB, but their WRs are simply embarrassing; borderline non-scholarship worthy. He’s never once played with anyone who’s got elite skill.

-Those who are spouting off his career rushing average in an attempt to diminish his running ability are doing exactly what you said, spouting off stats without ever having watched him play. Let me break it down for you why he has such a low rushing average. The NCAA for some idiotic reason still doesn’t distinguish between sacks and rushing yardage so every time Wilson is sacked those are recorded as negative rushing yards. Now I’ll list to you how many times Wilson has been sacked in his career:

-2008: 25 times
-2009: 30 times
-2010: 39 times

-Wilson has never played with a single elite skill player, and he’s never had anything even close to an offensive line to protect him. If you don’t think he’d easily be the top QB in the SEC, then MAYBE I can buy that because Murray and Tyler are solid. If you don’t think he’d be absolutely a top 3 QB in the SEC then you deserve to be checked into a clinic, and your response doesn’t deserve comment.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:10 pm to
I don't think I ever offered you for Vick, I was content with Orton until he killed me last 4 weeks of season.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:35 pm to
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I don't think I ever offered you for Vick, I was content with Orton until he killed me last 4 weeks of season.



You didn't, but tuck and a few others did.

I think he was one of the few players that you never did come after

I'm ready for another go this year, I'm gonna win
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:36 pm to
I am preparing myself, watching game film from last year, studying playbooks, and meeting the rooks. I got my sleeper list, my bust list, my break out list, and I am prepared.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:40 pm to
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I am preparing myself, watching game film from last year, studying playbooks, and meeting the rooks. I got my sleeper list, my bust list, my break out list, and I am prepared.



Well, I just hired Bill Parcells to be my Senior Advisor.

He's never wrong, at least that's what I gather from the way he talks...
This post was edited on 5/4/11 at 5:40 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:41 pm to
I hired Bell Belichick and he already told me to trade out of the first round and pick up some extra picks in rounds 3-4.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:48 pm to
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I hired Bell Belichick and he already told me to trade out of the first round and pick up some extra picks in rounds 3-4.



He's just gonna make you keep trading them every year

Although I registered as AL Davis in the FF league, so I feel the urge to trade you everything for a 2nd rounder...
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:49 pm to
I'll draft Heyward-Bey in the first and trade him to you for your first/second/and third round choices
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 5:56 pm to
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I'll draft Heyward-Bey in the first and trade him to you for your first/second/and third round choices


I'll accept, but only if I include a 2012 1st round FF pick too...
Posted by NoNC4Tubs
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 6:41 pm to
Nope
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 6:41 pm to
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I'll accept, but only if I include a 2012 1st round FF pick too...

What about a 10-14th round selections... you can get some value
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 6:51 pm to
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Of the last 10 QBs selected #1 overall, only Vick and Stafford had under 60% completions as starting QBs...


right but those are elite players. I said 1st rd qb's and I did say only a little above that.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 6:58 pm to
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right but those are elite players. I said 1st rd qb's and I did say only a little above that.



Well considering some people are claiming he'd be the best in the SEC, I'm gonna hold him to an elite caliber level...
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 6:59 pm to
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Well considering some people are claiming he'd be the best in the SEC, I'm gonna hold him to an elite caliber level...


but see that's the thing. The SEC, at this point, lacks an elite caliber player at QB right now.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 5/4/11 at 7:10 pm to
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but see that's the thing. The SEC, at this point, lacks an elite caliber player at QB right now.


And even then, I don't see Wilson as potentially the best QB in the conference...
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