re: If everyone wins out still in contention, will the committee really

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You put any of the west teams in the east and they win the east

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you aren't this stupid in real life, are you?

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will have won their conference playing against a team ranked abotu 12th.

Their wins far exceed any of MSU's wins.

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Miss St is still #4 and Alabama #1 specifically becuase the committee still regards beating LSU at least equally as beating Wisconsin, Auburn as at least equal to Kansas St, etc etc.

No matter how they're actually ranking the bottom half of the teams or how often they are saying "Top25 win" Bama wouldn't be #1 and Miss St #4 if they weren't already considering strength of schedule and not just totally dismissing 3 or 4 loss teams like Auburn and LSU that also have more quality wins than FSU.

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you are all kinds of ate up with anger.

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I think maybe you're a little jelly because poor UGA can't win when it counts to be put in the situation State has, so you have to discredit our body of work. If it were Alabama, LSU, or UGA in our position everyone would be talking about how there is no way they can be left out. Case in point, Kirk H. was the most avid supporter of Alabama in 2011, yet uses every opportunity to talk about how Ohio State is the better team this year of the 1 loss teams.

I get it. People like marquee names, so lets just call a spade a spade and stop trying to sugar coat it like they are.

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Uhhh you're right, there's a good chance none of them could.

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Please WG.

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You keep propping up LSU, why? Because it makes MSU look better? LSU has 4 frickin losses, 2 of which are baaaaaaaaad losses.

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I'm not propping LSU up. I'm simply pointing out that the team you are trashing, beat the team you are trying to prop up to make a better case for OSU. Kind of ironic.

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MSU would not only not be any kind of conference champion at all whatsoever, they wouldnt' be their division champion either.

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Um, actually they definitely would be the division co-champion. We're not about to hang a banner, but it is exactly the same principle as only being the co-champion of the conference.

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If there's 3 or 4 1 loss teams, yet some of them won their league and have 2 or 3 notable, top 15 wins, while MSU didn't win their division and has no top 15 wins

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Please show me where Ohio State has 2 or 3 notable top 15 wins.

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I think maybe you're a little jelly

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oops I thought I was talking to an adult

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poor UGA can't win when it counts

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will you say this when we're playing for the SECCG and you're not? Both teams have losses, therefore, we both lost when it counted.

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you have to discredit our body of work.

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Read the fricking OP. He was asking about a scenario and I gave rational, fact based responses to it. I wouldn't be able to discredit MSU if the things I said weren't actually true.

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Case in point, Kirk H. was the most avid supporter of Alabama in 2011, yet uses every opportunity to talk about how Ohio State is the better team this year of the 1 loss teams.

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Situations aren't even remotely similar, which I can explain to you if needed but don't feel like typing it out in this post.

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People like marquee names, so lets just call a spade a spade and stop trying to sugar coat it like they are.

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MSU deserved their #1 ranking without any doubt when they had it, it has nothing to do with names. If OSU wins out, I think they would have a better resume for the 4th spot based on games played.

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Please WG.

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MSU's 2 losses are to Oregon (ranked 2nd) and OSU (ranked 6th). Forgive me for thinking that shitty lsu, arkansas, and auburn teams would probably lose to them. Hell, UGA is ranked behind MSU and we beat the shite out of 2 of those 3 teams.

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I'm simply pointing out that the team you are trashing,

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I realize your crimson shades are blinding you from reality, but I'm not "trashing" msu. I'm saying OSU would have a better resume than them if they win their conference. And that'd be pretty hard to refute.

Only thing State can do to improve it's chances of staying in is beat Ole Miss soundly. Do that and none of the 5-7 teams win out with gusto, then they will likely make the cut. 2 and 3 losing a game would help too and could likely happen.

In this scenario Wisconsin in the title game and msu

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will you say this when we're playing for the SECCG and you're not? Both teams have losses, therefore, we both lost when it counted.

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I will definitely be saying it.

1) You're probably not going to be playing in the SECCG.
2) If you do, you will most assuredly lose.
3) If you could have beat an abysmal Florida team, you wouldn't be waiting on a Missouri team that lose to Indiana to back your way in to a championship game.

So, yeah.

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If OSU wins out, I think they would have a better resume for the 4th spot based on games played.

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Well I, along with plenty of other people committee included, don't think that they do or will have a better resume. Which is exactly why this is all opinion and not "facts" which you honestly think you are using here.

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I realize your crimson shades are blinding you from reality,

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lol wut

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I'm not "trashing" msu

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I never accused you of trashing MSU. Reading comprehension would go a long way for you.

There are a lot of circumstances where State can still make it to the dance. None of them include all the 1-loss teams and FSU winning out.

MSU better be hoping for some upsets in the coming two weeks or they'll be left out.

Honestly, I'm hoping for one of the other teams to get upset. I can only imagine this board next off season full of butt-melting grinders constantly whining about how they got left out because of anti-SEC or anti-clanga bias.