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re: If an undefeated Moo St loses to 2-loss UGA in the SECCG

Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:04 pm to
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How bad would the melt be if no SEC team makes it into the first playoffs?


I'm an AU fan, not a SEC fan. Wouldn't bother me a bit.
Posted by Recruitingjunkie
Member since Jan 2014
3059 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:04 pm to
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I'm an AU fan, not a SEC fan. Wouldn't bother me a bit.



Gotta give you props here. frick everyone except Alabama
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:05 pm to
If State goes 12-0 in the regular season, the SEC championship game doesn't really mean much unless UGA obliterates them.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:07 pm to
State would still get in
Posted by RussIX
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
144 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:12 pm to
I think if MSU only has one loss, even in the SECCG, they’re probably in no matter what (maybe baring a Prescott injury and a blowout). This doesn’t necessarily mean UGA and MSU couldn’t both go.

Here’s the way I see UGA’s chances (with some ESPN FPI stats to show how it’s really not as far-fetched as many are making it out to be:

All of the following assumes UGA wins out, including in the SECCG. (Which obviously means Missouri has to lose 1 more game. They should be the underdog in all three remaining games, so this is very likely)

There are a maximum of 6 teams standing in UGA’s way:

1. OSU or Neb. (1 of them guaranteed to lose)
2. Oregon or AZ St. (1 of them guaranteed to lose)
3. TCU
4. Baylor
5. MSU
6. FSU

UGA only needs 2-3 (explained below) of the following to happen in order to get in (ranked roughly according to how likely I think they are to happen):

1. FSU loses = 1 more game (67% likely according to ESPN’s FPI, still has MIA, UF, ACCCG)
2. MSU loses to Bama (74% likely) and Ole Miss (68% likely)
3. Neb. loses to Wisc., Minn. or Iowa (63%, 24%, 29% likely) and OSU loses = 1 more game (55% likely)
4. Baylor loses = 1 more game (34% likely according to ESPN FPI, still has KSU)
5. TCU loses = 1 more game (32% likely according to ESPN FPI, still has Texas)
6. AZ St. loses to OR St., WA St., or AZ (26%, 17%, 56% likely) and Oregon loses in PAC10CG (they’ll be favored, probably heavily, against anyone)

Note:
If #2 doesn’t happen, we need 3 of the others to happen because 1 loss MSU would be in ahead of the 2-loss SECC

If #2 does happen, we might only need 1 of either #1 or the second half of #3 to happen because:
I don’t think Baylor and TCU would both be in if it means excluding the SEC
I don’t think 1-loss FSU or 1-loss Neb. would be in if it means excluding the SEC

If #2 does happen and neither #1 nor the second half of #3 happens, we probably still need 2 others to happen

Thoughts? Have I watched the "Gurely Coming Home" video one too many times?
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:19 pm to
I think Auburn's loss last weekend hurts you. You have two horrible losses, and you beat most likely a 4 loss AU team as your only quality victory outside of MSU. Other 2 loss teams would have better victories. While the SEC West has name recognition, the East is looked at like a shite show.
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3597 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Have I watched the "Gurely Coming Home" video one too many times?


I'd blame the crack pipe; not the video.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Goes even more so if Georgia gets whipped by Auburn the way most of us think they will


Who thinks this? I haven't really seen much as far as predictions for Saturday but I don't think many, even Auburn fans, expect them to whoop us.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:30 pm to
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I don't think many, even Auburn fans, expect them to whoop us.


I would be shocked. There could be 600 yards of rushing between the teams Saturday.
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:32 pm to
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I'm an AU fan, not a SEC fan. Wouldn't bother me a bit.
... I'd love it if a UGA win over AU & an upset win in the SECCG fricked everyone else in the SEC...
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:32 pm to
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I would be shocked. There could be 600 yards of rushing between the teams Saturday.



I'd bet over 550 combined without hesitation.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:34 pm to
I'm not sure what the over/under is, but I'd consider taking the under just based on the TOP being eaten up on rushing the whole game.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:35 pm to
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I think Auburn's loss last weekend hurts you.


True.


quote:

You have two horrible losses,


True again.


quote:

4 loss AU team as your only quality victory outside of MSU


Well.....Clemson and Georgia Tech are both ranked, so there's that. So, that gives us 4 quality wins (in your scenario) with one being the #1 team in the Nation.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:37 pm to
Forgot about Clemson. Tech...we'll see, as they are still gt at the end of the day.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:39 pm to
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I'm not sure what the over/under is,
Amazingly enough, looking at Vegasinsider it's around 68...
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:39 pm to
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How bad would the melt be if no SEC team makes it into the first playoffs? Also would the committee give the last spot to Moo State, UGA, or a possible 1 or 2-loss Big 10 champ? All considering the top 3 spots will be FSU, Oregon/ASU, and Baylor/TCU.
I've been saying this for 3 weeks now....all 1-loss SEC teams will make the playoffs. If Alabama wins out and State beats Ole Miss and remains with 1 loss, they'll go too.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:41 pm to
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68...


Under please. Maybe 31-28 in my book.
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:42 pm to
... I thought it'd be around 82...
Posted by RussIX
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
144 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:43 pm to
This is probably right. Guess we need to hope for continued improvement from UF, maybe have them beat up on FSU. Maybe have them be rebranded as this much improved team without driskel.Then we'd have just the one bad loss to a decent team and the close loss to a bad team early in the season.

Nothing SC can do to help now given they play two other teams that we also played, so net positive effect would be 0

A UF over FSU result and a UGA win over Bama in the SECCG would surely put us in the conversation if MSU drops two and all the other Power 5 don't have 1-loss champs
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:49 pm to
Barring some busted plays that lead to 60 yard scores, I expect a heavy dose of runs by both teams. 75% heavy. Chubb/Michel in the first half and Gurley all second. I know TG is listed as starter, but I expect MR to use Chubb to beat on the AU line for awhile.
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