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re: I really like UT's talent this year, but man....Butch Jones

Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14414 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:09 am to
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but I don't see anyone taking him seriously when it's time to get in someone's arse


Woah slow down there, Aggie
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:11 am to
The only question I have with Jones is his in-game coaching/player development. He's a proven recruiter.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:22 am to
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The only question I have with Jones is his in-game coaching/player development




This is absolutely fair at this point. Another "Vol fan" in another thread said that we will have a talent advantage in 9 games, but a coaching advantage in only 5, so we'll only win 7. :it's science:


But, last season we had a talent advantage in only 5 games, but we won 6.



I'm not sold on Jones as a coach yet either, my skepticism stems from the loss to Florida last year, but to completely write him off as a bad coach at this point is just asinine. This year is gonna tell us a lot more about Jones than the last 2 years have.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 7:23 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:43 am to
Maybe if he was less corny, he wouldn't be 1-18 vs ranked teams.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41395 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:49 am to
If jones or sumlin are being interviewed I change the channel. They don't say anything. Butch is 100% coach speak and sumlin talks in circles.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15232 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 7:51 am to
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I'm not sold on Jones as a coach yet either, my skepticism stems from the loss to Florida last year, but to completely write him off as a bad coach at this point is just asinine. This year is gonna tell us a lot more about Jones than the last 2 years have.


Yep, I agree. A good example is Bielema, way too many Ranters wrote him off as a joke of a coach way too early. Now many of those same people praise him and the bright future Arky has now since he arrived.

We live in an instant gratification age, and what some don't understand, is sometimes, coaching takes a while to turn a program around. Jones may or may not be the answer, but it's still too early to make the call.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:25 am to
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but I just don't see him as a guy that is going to command much respect from his players. Dancing around, chest bumping, being "cool"...sure, but I don't see anyone taking him seriously when it's time to get in someone's arse.








Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140539 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:26 am to
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You're the worst fanbase on the planet, the world would rejoice if Gainesville was nuked and you all ceased to exist.


Well then.

I've defended UT fans from drunk frat boys in Gainesville before. I'll not make that mistake again. I'd hate to go against the stereotype.
Posted by Roses of Crimson
Sweet home Ala-bam
Member since Nov 2014
1631 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:42 am to
Butch is gonna win some games. What people dont understand is there was a lot of inner stuff going on during Fulmer's years. He had not only the Means thing but the deal where a girl claimed she was raped by a UT player and FUlmer set up a meeting with her before the Cops could talk to her. That didn't go over well in Knox county and I believe he ws reprimanded for it. There was this ideal that Fulmer was a god to UT fans and to them he was, to some at UT he was certainly not. There were way more issues with Fulmer than have been made public about his way of "doing business" and his reluctance to really adhere to those above him and his recruiting "practices". Hence why a man with over a 70% win percentage hasnt been even remotely discussed as a possibility at another school. People arent going to bring what they've heard into their program whether those things are true or not.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20770 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:46 am to
I say this with the utmost respect to Tennessee, Butch Jones is a clown and tries way too hard to be liked. Its so contrived.

The circle dance should be cause enough for him to get run out of town. Its just pure clowndemonium.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 9:06 am
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:27 am to
This is what I said about Tennessee & Butch Jones at the end of 2013 -
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What a nice way to finish the year. An impressive win will do a lot for a team's psyche, even one over a bad team. Sure, it was a bad year for the Vols, but after the Kiffin / Dooley disaster; fans saw enough this year to raise hopes and expectations. I can't help but think that Butch Jones is the right guy for this team and that better days are ahead.


TN needs to go 8-4 or better; I think 7-5 would not cause heads to explode; but in their hearts, Vols fans want/need to see at least 8-4, with one of the 8 being UGA, UF or Bama
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1836 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:38 am to
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Butch is a fat lesbian PE teacher masquerading as a HC, Pinkel's corpse could out-coach him.


Cam on Modern Family is a better football coach. Cam is old school and wears the coaches shorts. Much better coach
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41395 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:48 am to
He is going to give himself ulcers with all that hate going on in his noggin'
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19245 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:50 am to
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The man doesn't even have enough respect for himself, his family, or those around him not to get DUIs at his age.


So you've never had a drink and then drove home?

You're an impressive monument to moral virtue.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4140 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:33 am to
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Butch is a fat lesbian PE teacher masquerading as a HC, Pinkel's corpse could out-coach him.


fat lesbian Band Director
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Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25666 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:47 am to
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Butch is a fat lesbian PE teacher masquerading as a HC


sig worthy IMO (even tho I lost my sig privileges)...
Posted by Guitarcheese
Lakesite, TN
Member since Jul 2015
1463 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:56 am to
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liked


The word you're looking for is respected, just like most men on this planet.

This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 10:57 am
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
568 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 1:57 pm to
I didn't have much of an opinion on Butch Jones until I saw this video:

Video: Butch Jones Wasn’t Happy “Sweet Home Alabama” Played During UT’s Spring Practice

It was so contrived and fake I cringed.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 2:01 pm to
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It was so contrived and fake I cringed.


That was pretty bad
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 8/31/15 at 2:05 pm to
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I posted it before, and I'll post it again. Butch has a 1-16 record vs ranked opponents.
Hell, even Muschamp went 5-13 vs ranked teams.


So...both have better winning percentages vs ranked teams than McElwain...right?

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