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re: How Overrated is Nick Saban??

Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:51 pm to
BamaChick, I've seen Bama have too many men on the field at least twice this year.

Never on the last play, but still.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72262 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:52 pm to
Ha. You have doubts about a guy that has two national titles, and three SEC titles. Great flame work.
Posted by SeattleTide
Member since Oct 2007
53 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:56 pm to
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the one thing that Saban does that drove me crazy as a fan of my team and I am sure probably drives Bama fans crazy is that he is too damn conservative on offense. I remember when we had Jamarcus and all kinds of great receivers and all Saban wanted to do was run the ball 50 times a game. I hated it then, but after having Crowton air it out with a RS freshmen a few years ago, I understand why.


In my opinion, Saban focuses on a very strong fundamentals approach where he essentially wants to dominate the line of scrimmage and out-athlete you. He definitely wants to stretch the field but with a focus on high percentage plays. To a degree, he's a modern day Bear Bryant as both have very similar approaches to the game.

What DOES drive me crazy is when the kids don't execute or make silly mistakes. Penalties and turn-overs make me start drinking pepto!
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:56 pm to
Well, like somebody said, if Saban is overrated then your guy is in big trouble because all we hear from Vol fans is how Dooley is a "Saban disciple" and y'all shite yourselves' when he says something "Sabanesque".

Let's see how many seasons it takes for a Dooley led UT team to get 43 victories.

Saban did it 4.

I'm guessing Dooley won't be able to come close.

Only 37 more to go - he'll have to average 12.33 games a season.

That means he will have to go undefeated for the next 3 years.
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:58 pm to
He inherited a much bigger mess than Saban.

He still had the same reg. season debut.

Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 11:59 pm to
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He inherited a much bigger mess than Saban.


bullshite.

But I like your preemptive excuses.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40956 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:01 am to
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Let's see how many seasons it takes for a Dooley led UT team to get 43 victories.



I'll join in. Fulmer won more games in a 4 year period than Saban with 11 game seasons. I guess Fulmer>Saban?
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:02 am to
Uh yeah, thats definitely not bullshite.

Please direct me to the four freshman Olinemen and the Freshman QB on your '07 team. Also name all 60 players you had on the 'o7 team as well.

I'm waiting.
Posted by SeattleTide
Member since Oct 2007
53 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:03 am to
quote:

He inherited a much bigger mess than Saban.

He still had the same reg. season debut.



The core difference between the Saban and Dooley, in season two and three Alabama/Saban added Clemson and Virginia Tech to get more marquee nationally televised games. UT dropped UNC. That right there shows the mindset and difference between the two IMO.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40956 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:05 am to
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The core difference between the Saban and Dooley, in season two and three Alabama/Saban added Clemson and Virginia Tech to get more marquee nationally televised games. UT dropped UNC. That right there shows the mindset and difference between the two IMO.



Tennessee already has an ESPN non conference game scheduled for 2011, why does he need another?
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6295 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:13 am to
Offensive Line started two freshman with the best player being a soph gaurd. This was the worst line Pendry has put together in his 4 years at Bama. Will be dynamite next year if they stay healthy with 4/5 returning.

Julio, Dareus, Fluker,Ingram, Barron, Millner, Upshaw, all missed games. Seven or 8 starters all missed games and the team played banged up all year.

South Carolina had a bye week while Bama came off Arky and UF back to back. South Carolina has great team when they get avg QB play.

LSU: on the road could have went either way LSU made plays on defense and Bama didn't on 3 and 13. Kirby Smart is to blame for not blitzing and causing a short pass. Great call on critical down by Crowton with the reverse.

Auburn: God is on their side this year. They caught a freaking Hail Mary in SECG. They are destined with all the miracle comebacks and breaks they caught all year.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15164 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:18 am to
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A defense guy that let Garrett Gilbert torch his NFL level secondary last year in the second half


Torch? The guy was like 15 of 40. Had about 180 yards. And 2 touchdowns. This was after the offense got extremely conservative and the defense wasn't getting much time to rest. He did not torch our secondary
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22832 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:21 am to
He is definitely overrated. There are people that act like he is a damn god (most Bama fans and some LSU fans).

He is still the best active college coach though.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6295 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:24 am to
He hit two luckY plays, but had 4 Ints and game sealing fumble. He was 15 for 40 with 5 turnovers and people thought he was going to be a stud.
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:24 am to
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South Carolina pimpsmacked this team


Not really. We had more yards, more first downs, fewer penalty yards and dominated time of possession. We just played sloppily, but that isn't the fault of the coaches.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:27 am to
quote:

There are people that act like he is a damn god (most Bama fans and some LSU fans).


I, too, thought he was a god after 2008, 2009 seasons. but 2010 convinced me that he is mortal, and could end up with 3-4 loss seasons down the road just like 2008-2009 LSU team.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72262 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:30 am to
Alabama was 7 points from playing for another national title, even with the South Carolina loss. Yet, a 10-3 season off a national title convinces you that Alabama is destined for 3-4 loss season down the road?
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:34 am to
I don't know if anyone else watches soccer, but the Alabama-South Carolina game kind of reminded me of the Spain-Switzerland match from the World Cup that Switzerland won. Looking back, I'm still not sure how South Carolina won, because Alabama dominated almost every statistic. I'm sure Saban would love a rematch as much as any of us fans would.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:37 am to
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a 10-3 season off a national title


Fulmer did the same thing in 1999.
I said Saban 'could' end up with more 3-4 loss seasons down the road, not destined. in fact it just happened. and it could happen again.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:39 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6295 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:40 am to
People don't realize how talentless Bama was pre Saban.

In not 1 single player was drafted from that 07 team that year. Bama had not had a 1st RD draft pick in nine years. Samuels in 00- Smith 08.

Shula 06 class had decent talent, but nothing special.

Saban landed that 08 class and has been kicking arse ever since. Alabama has been in every game since Saban has been there except maybe the Utah game.

Even when the team sucked in 07 they never lost a game by more than one possession.

With Saban there is always a chance to win.

Every coach has been blown out at their current school in the SEC except Saban.

When teams get blown out its bad coaching.

Richt blown out a few times
Miles Blown out by UF in 08 and UGA in SECG
Meyer Blown out several times.
The list goes on and on.

Saban's Bama teams have always shown up to play except Utah.
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