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re: How much more success could coaches have at Bama than at other schools?

Posted on 6/1/11 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 12:45 pm to
i didnt so much see it as a flame as good natured ribbing at my expense - but i guess we all see what we want.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:32 pm to
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Saban's first four yrs, vs those first four at Lsu.


Can't compare the two because Bama would have never hired him from Michigan State.

By the time you guys got him he was established as a great recruiter/defensive coach.

Bama would have never hired Miles out of Okie State either.

In our lifetimes you guys haven't been very receptive to outsiders. Dennis Franchione is the only exception.

You spend way too much time thinking up these ingratiating threads.

You should try to gain some self worth though your own actions. Basing your own worth on one's favorite sports team's success can result in a miserable life.
This post was edited on 6/1/11 at 1:51 pm
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:37 pm to
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Bamas fapping to making coaches better.

is inbred into them
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:50 pm to
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@ Bama 43-11 1 National Championship and 2 West Div titles.


He needs to be thankful Shula left him some talent.....
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:58 pm to
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As an example.. we'll take a look at Saban's first four yrs, vs those first four at Lsu. While at this point, the Championships are equal, the wins are not. Factor in that Lsu doesn't compete with another legit Div 1 school in state and it makes me wonder how much more successful Bama could be if it had the state to itself.



You can't possibly think it's the same situation, right?
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 1:59 pm to
I don't think Fulmer would have been much better at Bama, if at all.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 2:11 pm to
notice he left off our 2nd sec title
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 3:46 pm to
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notice he left off our 2nd sec title


Yep, 2 SEC titles in 4 years at LSU why only 1 at Alabama in that same time frame. What gives?
Posted by mgmbamafan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 4:22 pm to
If you want to see how a coach will do, look at Fran Phony at Bama and his record at TAM, Shoola and Dubuse both posted 10 win seasons.. throw in Stallings who had 1 winning season in 7 at TAM and then won a MNC at BAMMER and it is clear that the REC, the facilities, the tradition, the academic administration, etc. would give almost anyone a better coaching record... you will find that type support at Texas, tOSU and Alabama
This post was edited on 6/1/11 at 4:23 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 4:38 pm to
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Posted by Alahunter I agree, they are better examples, but for added emphasis, as good as Saban was at Lsu, he is still even more successful at Bama. No matter the level of coach, there is marked improvement.


He also wasn't taking over a program that managed only three wins the year before. Including a loss to houston. It's really a terrible comparison hunter.
Posted by Bobby Moore
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 4:40 pm to
none........
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 5:59 pm to
How bout factoring in...LSU plays Florida EVERY year...while BAMA does not...wonder if that would make a difference...
This post was edited on 6/1/11 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 6:09 pm to
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How bout factoring in...LSU plays Florida EVERY year...while BAMA does not...wonder if that would make a difference


2007 is the only yr Bama hasn't played Florida since he's been here. If you wanna go that route.. Bama had to play a NC winning Florida, something Lsu didn't have to face in the yrs he played them there.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 6:14 pm to
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throw in Stallings who had 1 winning season in 7 at TAM


To be fair, he was very young at the time.
This post was edited on 6/1/11 at 6:15 pm
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 6:21 pm to
Coach Saban also got his first undefeated season at Alabama.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/1/11 at 6:30 pm to
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if he came back to LSU instead of settling for Alabama



Settling for? Seriously?
Posted by gacajun
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/3/11 at 6:54 am to
While you're wondering that, wonder this:
How much more successful would Saban have been at LSU if Florida wasn't the Tigers permanent opponent from the SEC East?

Both Alabama and LSU face Auburn on an annual basis. But only one team in the SEC West has to face the Gators year in and year out and that is LSU. Barring that Saban would have had a few more wins.
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