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re: How many other SEC schools have state-wide satellite campuses?

Posted on 9/16/11 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 3:07 pm to
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UAB and UAH are not satellite campuses. The University of Alabama System is made up of three separate universities, governed by the same Board of Trustees:

Tuscaloosa
Birmingham
Huntsville


They are separate campuses that wouldn't exist if not for the main campus in Tuscaloosa. UAB people need to quite their bitching and whining about big bad "UAT" and be thankful we even allowed them to exist in the first place. No matter how red faced and angry they get they will not and cannot divorce the medical school from the main UA campus. It's the University of Alabama School of Medicine as much as it is the UAB School of Medicine. What UAB has done with the Med School would essentially be like Auburn decided to place a component of their medical school in Montgomery at AUM for the good of the state and then stealing the name and claiming the school Auburn placed their no longer has anything at all to do with the main Auburn campus.

As for student population of the 3 campuses. Here they are as of Fall 2011:

University of Alabama: 31,747
UAB: 17,575
UAH: 7,500
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 3:21 pm to
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They are separate campuses that wouldn't exist if not for the main campus in Tuscaloosa. UAB people need to quite their bitching and whining about big bad "UAT" and be thankful we even allowed them to exist in the first place.


First of all, "we" has nothing to do with it. Govt Tide did nothing. Second of all, you want to know why UAB and UAH people get "red faced and angry"? It's the attitude in your post.

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No matter how red faced and angry they get they will not and cannot divorce the medical school from the main UA campus. It's the University of Alabama School of Medicine as much as it is the UAB School of Medicine.


Same applies to the University of Alabama School of Law. Look, it's absolutely the University of Alabama Medical School. But the amount of slighting that flows from Tuscaloosa toward Birmingham and Huntsville in many different ways is inarguable.

But, if you want to get competitive about it, from the UA System website:

Government Contracts and Grants (FY 2010) (I'll grant the the UAB number is largely associated with the med school, but man, look at UAH. You would never know the difference between Calhoun and UAH to listen to people like you talk...)

Tuscaloosa $68,583,560
Birmingham $487,674,404
Huntsville $80,584,998
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 3:53 pm to
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Same applies to the University of Alabama School of Law. Look, it's absolutely the University of Alabama Medical School. But the amount of slighting that flows from Tuscaloosa toward Birmingham and Huntsville in many different ways is inarguable.

But, if you want to get competitive about it, from the UA System website:

Government Contracts and Grants (FY 2010) (I'll grant the the UAB number is largely associated with the med school, but man, look at UAH. You would never know the difference between Calhoun and UAH to listen to people like you talk...)

Tuscaloosa $68,583,560
Birmingham $487,674,404
Huntsville $80,584,998


I've never sensed any "attitude" from Alabama people towards UAH. I think Alabama people greatly respect it for its strong ties to NASA and The Cummings Research Park in Huntsville.

There is some resentment towards Alabama people towards UAB for good reason. The University of Alabama (UAT if you want to call it that)started the system's medical school before their was a UA "system". They located THEIR medical school in Birmingham (the state's largest and fastest growing business center)for the greater good of the state. It would be like Auburn placing it's architecture program in Bham to better benefit the state and AUB (Auburn Univ in Bham for example) deciding frick the main campus were taking the main campus's architecture program and putting in under our banner. It's a bush league thing to do but that's what UAB leaders did. The medical school federal funds should be under the main campus's total as it was affiliated with the main campus way before it ever became associated with the Birmingham campus.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 4:09 pm to
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UAB and UAH are not satellite campuses. The University of Alabama System is made up of three separate universities, governed by the same Board of Trustees:


You are correct. But they started out as extensions of the University of Alabama.

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In 1936, in response to the rapid growth of the Birmingham metropolitan area and the need for the population to have easy access to a university education, the University of Alabama created a Birmingham Extension Center. The center initially operated in an old house in downtown Birmingham at 2131 6th Avenue North and enrolled 116 students. In 1945, the newly-created four-year University of Alabama School of Medicene moved from the Tuscaloosa campus to Birmingham and took over management of Jefferson and Hillman hospitals. In the post-war boom, enrollment at the extension center increased steadily; it stood at 1,856 by 1957. The medical center also grew. By 1959, research grants, training grants, and fellowships exceeded $1,000,000, and ground was broken for a new Children's Hospital.

By the 1960s, it grew readily apparent that the extension center was becoming a university in its own right. An engineering building was built close to the medical center in 1962. In 1966, the Extension Center and the School of Medicine were merged into the University of Alabama in Birmingham. An Advisory Board for UAB was created in 1967. In 1969, the legislature created the University of Alabama System and elevated UAB to the status of an autonomous institution within the system, which also included UA (in Tuscaloosa) and the University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH) in Huntsville. Dr. Joseph Volker was named the first president of UAB.


Also UAH.....

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The genesis for a publicly funded institution of higher education in Huntsville was many years in the making. Begun in January 1950 as an extension of the University of Alabama and known as the University of Alabama Huntsville Center, classes were first taught at West Huntsville High School. UAH's first undergraduate degrees were awarded in May 1968 as part of the spring commencement ceremony at The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, (although a "cap and gown" ceremony was held in Huntsville).

One year later, the University of Alabama System Board of Trustees voted to make UAH an independent and autonomous campus.
This post was edited on 9/16/11 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 4:15 pm to
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They located THEIR medical school in Birmingham (the state's largest and fastest growing business center)for the greater good of the state.


This is true, but this relationship effectively ended in '69 when UAB was born.

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The medical school federal funds should be under the main campus's total as it was affiliated with the main campus way before it ever became associated with the Birmingham campus.


Disagree. A large majority of the federal funds that UAB gets have nothing to do with the fact that the medical school of Alabama is located in Birmingham. It's the scientists and administration of UAB doing the heavy lifting. Things have changed since the 60s and 70s.

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It would be like Auburn placing it's architecture program in Bham to better benefit the state and AUB (Auburn Univ in Bham for example) deciding frick the main campus were taking the main campus's architecture program and putting in under our banner. It's a bush league thing to do but that's what UAB leaders did.


Sort of like those pesky British colonists back in the 18th century. Who did they think they were? (just a joke btw!)
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 4:20 pm to
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You are correct. But they started out as extensions of the University of Alabama.


Of course. But over time, this relationship has changed dramatically. UAB and UAH are both self sufficient institutions, who, although they owe their founding to UA(T), are all grown up now.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 9/16/11 at 4:36 pm to
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