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re: How good of a coach was Johnny Vaught?

Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32219 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Bear Bryant didn’t want to play against him


It's was mutual. And some times when they did, it was considered non-conference.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 3:10 pm to
Ancient Astronaut:

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True, Bear leads by one game. But from 1944-65 Bama and Ole Miss did not play each other in the regular season. Personally the two probably just had a gentleman's agreement not to play one another. It was a lot different back then.


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Bryant didn't get to Bama til '58. He is the one who brought OM on the schedule beginning in '64. Bama had just pulled a big upset over OM in the '64 Sugar Bowl (after the '63 season). This was the beginning of the end for OM.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 3:17 pm to
Vols&Shaft83:

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He also took a leave of absence at the peak of his career to fight in WW2. You cannot put Neyland behind Spurrier and be taken seriously.


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I did note that Neyland had 2 "tours of duty" with UT.

I agree that the choice between the 2 is debatable. I chose Spurrier because he had 1 more SECC in fewer years at UF, requiring a championship game victory. As well he had a 7% higher winning %. He also changed the culture of the SEC with his type of offensive football. Also, the job he did at USC was, on balance, impressive. Neyland was a truly great coach, but his teams did not perform well on the national stage as the 2-5 record in major bowl games indicates.
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 3:24 pm to
He was really good, before scholarship limits and desegregation
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 3:48 pm to
I think he was one of only about 5 SEC coaches to win over 100 conference games.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3155 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 4:22 pm to
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Neyland was a truly great coach, but his teams did not perform well on the national stage as the 2-5 record in major bowl games indicates.


His teams also played weaker schedules than they should have. See this LINK.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 4:25 pm to
Outstanding coach. Ole Miss was a top 10-15 program from 1955 to 1970 under him.
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