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re: How does Bama's current run compare to other dynasties in their prime?
Posted on 12/17/15 at 5:53 pm to FourThreeForty
Posted on 12/17/15 at 5:53 pm to FourThreeForty
Florida 06-09 was better than USC's "dynasty".
Now to the question, in line with that Florida run (not with the 90s run by Florida in terms of SEC dominance was and still the biggest run since the Bear),
Comparable but behind 90s FSU (which screw them and it was in large part of the product of the ACC but still- 14 straight years in the final top 5.
Not close to Nebraska which from 1993 through 1997 was essentially a missed 40 yarder and failed 4th down stop from winning 5 consecutive national titles.
Now to the question, in line with that Florida run (not with the 90s run by Florida in terms of SEC dominance was and still the biggest run since the Bear),
Comparable but behind 90s FSU (which screw them and it was in large part of the product of the ACC but still- 14 straight years in the final top 5.
Not close to Nebraska which from 1993 through 1997 was essentially a missed 40 yarder and failed 4th down stop from winning 5 consecutive national titles.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 6:04 pm to BHMKyle
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Bama's current run is very strong. First off, here is what I would consider a "Dynasty"
#1 Must include at least 2 National Titles during the run
#2 Has to be at least 4 seasons in length
#3 Cannot include consecutive seasons ranked outside the Final AP Top 20
#4 Average Final Rank in AP Poll must be at least Top 10
#5 At least 50% of the seasons must include a Top 5 AP Finishs
#6 Overall winning percentage must be at least 82%
Using this criteria, there have been 5 dynasties during the modern era (1980-present). Here they are listed in chronological order:
MIAMI
Years: 1983-2003 (21 total)
National Titles: 5
Top 5 Finishes: 12 (57%)
Avg. AP Rank: #8.0
Total Record: 212-42-0 (83.5%)
**Produced 2 Heisman Trophy winners
FLORIDA STATE
Years: 1987-2000 (14 years)
National Titles: 2
Top 5 Finishes: 14 (100%)
Avg. AP Rank: #2.6
Total Record: 152-19-1 (88.7%)
*Produced 2 Heisman Trophy winners
USC
Years: 2002-2008 (7 years)
National Titles: 2
Top 5 Finishes: 7 (100%)
Avg. AP Rank: #4.3
Total Record: 68-9 (88.3%)
*Produced 3 Heisman Trophy winners (though Reggie Bush later vacated his)
FLORIDA
Years: 2006-2009 (4 years)
National Titles: 2
Top 5 Finishes: 3 (75%)
Avg. AP Rank: #4.5
Total Record: 48-7 (87.3%)
*Produced 1 Heisman Trophy winner
ALABAMA
Years: 2008-present (currently 8 years)
National Titles: 3
Top 5 Finishes: 4 or 5 (50-62.5% depending on this year)
Avg. AP Rank: #4.3
Total Record: 96-12 (88.9%)
*Produced 2 Heisman Trophy winners
***Ohio State only needs one more title in the coming years to be able to say they have been in a dynasty dating back to 2012.
In my opinion, Miami's dynasty is most impressive... simply because it spanned 2+ decades and claimed 5 National Titles.
The fact that Florida State finished in the AP Top 5 in 14 consecutive seasons is a feat that will likely never be equaled. I also think that makes that dynasty extra special.
If Bama were to lose in the playoff and sputter out over the next few seasons, I would say that the Saban dynasty would rank #3 in the modern era behind Miami's and Florida State's. To me, FSU's 14-consecutive seasons in the Top 5 + 2 MNCs would trump Bama's 3 MNC's in 9 years with just 4 Top 5 fnishes.
If Bama were to win the Title this season, then it would be a for-sure #2 best dynasty of the modern era, and they'd be well on their way to equaling Miami's impressive dynasty
You missed Nebraska 1993-1997 (5 seasons)
National Titles: 3 (a missed FG from winning 3 straight; a missed 4th down stop from playing for 5 straight)
Top 5 finishes: 4
Average rank: 2.6
Posted on 12/17/15 at 6:14 pm to BHMKyle
Good post. Have an upvote.
While I don't agree with everything. It is nice to see a well thought out post that's not just something to stir shite.
While I don't agree with everything. It is nice to see a well thought out post that's not just something to stir shite.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 12/17/15 at 6:20 pm to montanagator
Modern Era? You missed two OU dynasties in that time frame.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 6:27 pm to Phat Phil
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2014: Corch kicked the shite out of them
Right now you would kill for a 12-win season where Tennessee wins the conference and makes the playoff, playoff loss or not.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:17 pm to FourThreeForty
quote:null and void. cheated like crazy and got busted. vacated wins. removed references to bush in the ad. total embarrassment.
USC from about 2003-2007
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