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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:48 pm
When assistants and/or head coaches are recruited to other programs do they typically give their existing employer the opportunity to match or exceed?
Having been in business all my life and an owner and decision-maker in this latter part of it, if we were set to lose talent we would evaluate our needs on an unemotional as possible basis and act accordingly. We pulled some back from the brink and others we shook their hand on the way out the door.
Looking for information or even informed speculation out of curiosity. Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.
Having been in business all my life and an owner and decision-maker in this latter part of it, if we were set to lose talent we would evaluate our needs on an unemotional as possible basis and act accordingly. We pulled some back from the brink and others we shook their hand on the way out the door.
Looking for information or even informed speculation out of curiosity. Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:49 pm to CelticTiger
Melt
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:49 pm to CelticTiger
We nearly matched what lsu offered
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:50 pm to CelticTiger
I would expect that it is up to the agent. A “right of first refusal” type situation. He then weighs out a (potential) counter-offer from his current job and then decides which direction to go. I think the part that weighed the most was not entirely monetary. His wife would like to come home. It happens.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:50 pm to CelticTiger
Some do, some don't. Probably just depends on the coach and the situation.
Apparently, Mizzou was willing to at least compete with LSU on Baker's salary:
St Louis Post Dispatch
Apparently, Mizzou was willing to at least compete with LSU on Baker's salary:
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While his new salary at LSU hasn't been confirmed, Missouri was willing to further raise Baker’s salary from $1.9 million to compete with the LSU's offers of more than $2 million — suggesting Baker’s decision was not motivated by money.
St Louis Post Dispatch
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:51 pm to CelticTiger
Depends on if they are conflicted on if they would rather stay or leave.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:51 pm to CelticTiger
Melty McMeltface
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:52 pm to TexasOnTop
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Melt
Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.
..and even as I asked you nicely.
frick off shite stain!
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:52 pm to CelticTiger
The Notre Dame AD publicly complained about not being given an opportunity to counter LSU's offer for Kelly.
Les Miles and Corey Raymond used other teams to bait Alleva into jacking up their salaries multiple times, and it hurt us in recruiting.
Chavis walked away without looking back, but he knew it was about to fall apart.
And there was absolute no smoke about LSU trying to match ND's offer for Denbrock.
Those are just LSU examples off the top of my head.
Les Miles and Corey Raymond used other teams to bait Alleva into jacking up their salaries multiple times, and it hurt us in recruiting.
Chavis walked away without looking back, but he knew it was about to fall apart.
And there was absolute no smoke about LSU trying to match ND's offer for Denbrock.
Those are just LSU examples off the top of my head.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:54 pm to mizslu314
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We nearly matched what lsu offered
LSU is just different man. Sometimes it’s not all about the money.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:55 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
This is a case where it’s obviously not about the money.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:55 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
Yeah, there were a combination of reasons why Baker could have rejected any counter.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:55 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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LSU is just different man. Sometimes it’s not all about the money
100%. When you can get back to where you have family it’s hard to pass up
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:57 pm to the808bass
Same thing that happened to LSU with Denbrock happened to Mizzou with Baker.
Sometimes a coach just wants to be close to home.
I personally thought Baker would hold some animosity due to Kelly not retaining him in 2021 but apparently he didn't.
Sometimes a coach just wants to be close to home.
I personally thought Baker would hold some animosity due to Kelly not retaining him in 2021 but apparently he didn't.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:58 pm to mizslu314
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100%. When you can get back to where you have family it’s hard to pass up
Not just that.
He's familiar with the roster, he knows what Perkins is capable of, and LSU is a big profile.
He does his job right and he's a superstar after the 2024 season.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:01 am to CelticTiger
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When assistants and/or head coaches are recruited to other programs do they typically give their existing employer the opportunity to match or exceed? Having been in business all my life and an owner and decision-maker in this latter part of it, if we were set to lose talent we would evaluate our needs on an unemotional as possible basis and act accordingly. We pulled some back from the brink and others we shook their hand on the way out the door. Looking for information or even informed speculation out of curiosity. Please don't answer with childish bashes to Mizzou. Use the other 50+ Mizzou bash threads to do that.
Unlike regular business, coaches have agents who generally get the ball rolling with the knowledge of their client’s preferences as far as job locations are.
Who knows who or how this was initiated but it happens all the time.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:02 am to SidewalkTiger
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Apparently, Mizzou was willing to at least compete with LSU on Baker's salary:
Well, that's what I'm trying to determine. Let's say I acquiesce on LSU being the better (short term?) opportunity. If Baker's really the guy why not go nuclear? Pay him $5 mil.
If Mizzou is destined to be a stepping stone, at some point you have to stop the bleeding. Seriously, what is a million or two when you have a current step up and want to continue to build?
A couple of million dollars is nothing if you are trying to make systemic changes.
Cue the Jimbo Fisher warnings.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:03 am to wadewilson
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Those are just LSU examples off the top of my head.
Appreciate the reasonable reply!
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:06 am to wadewilson
I’m half joking/trolling . I think your last point is true even if he stays here for one more year. Perhaps he’s also still familiar with the roster , I know about his history with Perkins but outside that I got no idea who he knows . We knew we only had him for one more season, so this wasn’t a loss where we thought we lost someone we were always going to have. Most mizzou fans - not even so myself fully - are annoyed about his comment after the last few days and leaving. LSU is obviously a DC dream job. Not like we lost him to some FCS school or Arkansas
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:08 am to CelticTiger
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If Baker's really the guy why not go nuclear? Pay him $5 mil.
Are you asking why Mizzou shouldn't offer an outrageous price to keep him?
Because Drinkwitz and your AD are good at their jobs, and presumably already have a shortlist of potential and realistic replacements.
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