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re: Hiesman Voting a Sham
Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:41 am to blueridgeTiger
Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:41 am to blueridgeTiger
Any fool who leaves Ingram off their ballot completely should have the voting privileges revoked henceforward. No one can say he is not at least top three.
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Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:42 am to LSU GrandDad
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if i remember correctly, there wasn't a whimper when manning got hosed. now, it's an issue. hmmmmmm
Well, you obviously don't remember correctly. Maybe because you supported it?...
Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:44 am to DvlsAdvocat
Plus Saban didn't leave Ingram in games late to pad his stats. Suh is a good argument but for a writer in the southeast to leave Ingram completly off their ballot and have Tebow on the ballot is insane.
This post was edited on 12/9/09 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/9/09 at 9:46 am to NOLATide
Peyton also was screwed because an SEC quarterback had won the year before. Voters weren't gonna do it two years in a row.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:07 am to raynoch
I have seen the ballots of 4 different voters from Mississippi and NONE of them even have Ingram on their ballot, one even has Kellen Moore from Boise St at 3rd place.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:34 am to Pax Regis
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Any fool who leaves Ingram off their ballot completely should have the voting privileges revoked henceforward. No one can say he is not at least top three.
And this goes back to the statement in the OP about voters with agendas. Last year Tebow had more first place votes than any other candidate but 192 voter left him off of their ballot completely. You can't tell me that those voters actually felt he was not a top three candidate they were negatively voting against him to help their guy out.
Arakis, I'm not nieve to the politics of college football I was just getting an idea if the posters on this board were of the opinion that I have that Ingram is a legit top three candidate. Of course I think he is a solid top two but I am biased. I know the award is not legit. Just wondering if anyone else could justify voters leaving Ingram off.
Not to mention that no one had even considered Suh untill Saturday night. If his championship game vaults him into contention then why should'nt the performance Ingram put up against the FL defense give a big push for him.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:36 am to 4nmylifetime
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Hiesman Voting a Sham
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Payton Manning
Your spelling is a sham as well.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:40 am to I-59 Tiger
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Your spelling is a sham as well
I-59 is this what it has come to. You've stooped to being the spell check police. I was actually hoping you would give an opinion on the subject due to your years of watching college football but I guess your personel opinions of me cant let you get over it.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:51 am to 4nmylifetime
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spell check police
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I guess your personel opinions of me cant let you get over it.
You are under arrest....
just kidding, that was too easy to pass up...
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:58 am to Aubie83
Then I would have to pleed guiltie.
God forbid anyone in the sacred relm of message boards type in a hurry or not spell check.
God forbid anyone in the sacred relm of message boards type in a hurry or not spell check.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:59 am to msukb79
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msukb79
Hiesman Voting a Sham
I cant wait to hear the Gumps complaining when SUH or GERHART win the Heisman over Ingram.
Either one deserves it more. That is like me bitching about last year's results. Timy got the most 1st votes, but didn't win. IMO Colt deserved it last year.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:02 pm to msukb79
I won't be upset if he does'nt win it. He's a Sophmore. If Tebow wins it then I'll get upset because it proves the obsession with Tebow is still Going On.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:08 pm to msukb79
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Personally I think that Anthony Dixon at Mississippi State meant more for his team than Ingram did. He averaged more yards per game than Ingram, and without him I know state would have struggled their asses off. While Bama without Ingram still would have won due to Great Defense and Superior O-Line and great WRs
You're right about Dixon being very valuable to MSU. However, we wouldn't have won as much as everyone thinks without Ingram. Teams started the season off game planning to stop Julio but they quickly learned that they needed to try and stop Ingram. If not for Ingram, our WRs wouldn't have been as productive. Yes we have a good OL but Ingram also leads the SEC in YAC and at one time he led the nation (not sure if he still does).
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:12 pm to rolltide1283
Why are you upset because the media obsesses about Tebow?
That is equivalent to me crying because Florida lost last Saturday.
Some people need fuller lives I guess.
Tebow has a right to cry, Urban has a right to go to the hospital. Football is what they do, what will feed them. To us is just a freaking game. Get over yourselves.
That is equivalent to me crying because Florida lost last Saturday.
Some people need fuller lives I guess.
Tebow has a right to cry, Urban has a right to go to the hospital. Football is what they do, what will feed them. To us is just a freaking game. Get over yourselves.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:16 pm to austingator
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Why are you upset because the media obsesses about Tebow?
Was this addressed to me? I didn't say anything about Tebow in my post. Your reply was directed to me.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:17 pm to rolltide1283
no it was to ritd2? (above you)
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:19 pm to austingator
Oh ok
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:24 pm to msukb79
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Ingram is a great player, but these guys saw what I saw when Bama played Auburn. You can put in Richardson or HELL even COffee and still have good production from the RB position for Alabama due to their bad arse O-Line
SUH- Beast dominated everybody all year
Gerhart- Beast playing behind a FAR inferrior O-line thank INgram
McCoy- QB for the other team playing in the National championship gam
So, if we go back and check the stats on Suh and McCoy, we will find that both did not have one bad game this year? I doubt that to be true-I watched McCoy have one. I suspect that Suh had at least one sub-par game also. I don't see how you can take a player out of contention for one game, especially a rivalry game.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:31 pm to 40th Alabama
Geaux horns!
Posted on 12/9/09 at 12:55 pm to Bandits
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You're right about Dixon being very valuable to MSU. However, we wouldn't have won as much as everyone thinks without Ingram. Teams started the season off game planning to stop Julio but they quickly learned that they needed to try and stop Ingram. If not for Ingram, our WRs wouldn't have been as productive. Yes we have a good OL but Ingram also leads the SEC in YAC and at one time he led the nation (not sure if he still does).
Rolltide1283
Great job rebuttling my earlier comments
too bad more Bama fans cant be as of a Straight shooter as you are. I agree with every single point you wrote, great job. I think Ingram has a 50/50 chance, but Im just a big Gerhart fan. The fact that im a State Alum doesnt help Ingrams case on my behalf either.
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