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re: Here's to a well officiated game

Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:07 am to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:07 am to
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The replay does not clearly show if Julio touched the ball
Then the call must stand. You near clear evidence to overturn it. Those are the rules of review
Posted by hg
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:07 am to
clear evidence you say?
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:08 am to
I've always wished that Ritter would have given explanation instead of just saying "the ruling on the field stands, incomplete pass."

If he would have said, "the player didn't have control of the ball with a foot down," then that could give us an idea of if they were even looking to see if Jones was touching the ball or not.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:09 am to
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He's changing the narrative to conform to what he wants to believe.


I believe Alabama won that game, and the national championship.

A lot like Corey Webster mauled a bama receiver in the end zone when lsu won the national championship
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:09 am to
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then that could give us an idea of if they were even looking to see if Jones was touching the ball or not.
Why wouldn't they be?
Posted by j bro12
LA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:09 am to
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Then the call must stand. You near clear evidence to overturn it. Those are the rules of review


Gump logic. You clearly can't understand that there's no evidence of Julio touching the ball. But there is clear evidence of PP7 catching it. Therefore that IS a pick. I'm done here. I'm sure there will be something else for Gumps to bitch about when they lose Saturday night.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:10 am to
So basically, if they can tell that PP had possession, was in bounds, and intercepted the ball for all intents and purposes, that should be overcome by the mere possibility that Jones may have had a finger tip on the ball even though the video evidence does not support that stance? So basically, let's completely ignore what we watched and rule based on a possibility that is never shown through the video evidence?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:10 am to
We all remember 2009 refgate. I want 2012 refgate to go our way. 2009 Alabama/LSU is one of the worst officiated games in the last 5 years. Maybe 10.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 12:12 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:10 am to
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hg
Yes, and as I've already stated, that picture is completely irrelevant. Nevermind the fact the possession cannot be determined from a still picture. We're not even arguing possession. We're talking about what happened before that picture.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:11 am to
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I'm sure there will be something else for Gumps to bitch about when they lose Saturday night


Yep. Traffic
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:11 am to
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I believe Alabama won that game, and the national championship.

A lot like Corey Webster mauled a bama receiver in the end zone when lsu won the national championship


We're well past changing history and I'm really not trying to. I'm just trying to understand this argument because this is the first I've heard of it honestly.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:12 am to
We'll never know, is my point. So much of the focus was if he had possession while tucking the ball away. If I remember correctly, Verne and Danielson were solely focused on his feet.

It's harder for the official to give a brief explanation though, because they aren't actually the one under the hood.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:12 am to
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Gump logic.
Gump logic = the rules of review? Ok then. I'll take it.
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ou clearly can't understand that there's no evidence of Julio touching the ball
Except that there is. And there's no clear evidence of him NOT touching the ball. That is important
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But there is clear evidence of PP7 catching it. Therefore that IS a pick.
Not if JJ touched it first, which is the entire point.
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I'm sure there will be something else for Gumps to bitch about when they lose Saturday night.
Da fuq? This is all about LSU fans bitching because they lost. 3 damn years ago.
Posted by Wazoo
Member since Oct 2012
944 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:12 am to
somebody call Mike Pereira and get him in this bitch asap.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:13 am to
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Except that there is. And there's no clear evidence of him NOT touching the ball. That is important


It's really not. PP7 was ruled out of bounds.. the ruling on the field was not that Julio touched it first which killed the play. Therefore, there had to be conclusive evidence that Julio had touched it first for your logic to stand.

Bad call and a worse review.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 12:14 am
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:13 am to
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Nevermind the fact the possession cannot be determined from a still picture.

True.

Tell that to your AllBamaDoesIsWin friend and his stupid youtube video.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:14 am to
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Not if JJ touched it first, which is the entire point.


How would he have touched it first? seriously dude? You think he touched it first? And there is nothing on that video, even if we choose to believe that he touched it first, that he was out of bounds when he did.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:14 am to
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Nevermind the fact the possession cannot be determined from a still picture.

I tried to convince some Tidefans of this on Reid's interception last year. They couldn't process it either
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:14 am to
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It's really not. PP7 was ruled out of bounds..
I haven't heard that. I've only heard that it was ruled an incomplete pass. Please show me a link where it says PP7 was ruled out of bounds when he caught the ball.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:15 am to
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How would he have touched it first? seriously dude? You think he touched it first? And there is nothing on that video, even if we choose to believe that he touched it first, that he was out of bounds when he did.
I should clarify. Touched it before possession was completed.
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