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re: Herbstreit: I'm a fan of a new rule, tempo has taken defensive minds out of game

Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:12 pm to
You're forgiven doc,I would do the same if I was a shithead like you..
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:15 pm to
First it was BeerBryant, then it was some Larry person, and now its a Doc. I'm sure next week ill be another alter for some hopeful poster.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105399 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:19 pm to
I never claimed you were anybody else but Doc. That I'm sure of. What other people falsely call you is on them.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:20 pm to
Maybe Bert was on to something?




naw he fat.
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:32 pm to
I think he was for sure. For being made fun as he was, Bert sure is blockin out the haters.
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3446 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:51 pm to
How many of these threads are we going to see?

Bama's defense just wasn't good this year. Normally they stop the spread - don't panic. The same for LSU, Florida etc.

Nobody is going any faster - offensive coaches are out working defensive coaches and High School teams running more than the power I and traditional option.

Can we all agree -no more of these threads?

Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30286 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:53 am to
I can hear all the gadget guys like Malzahn and Sumlin and Freeze and Kiffin,etc..singing some Kendrick to Herbie and Saban and Miles.

"Bitch don't kill my vibe..bitch don't kill my vibe! I can feel your energy from two planets away."
Posted by WhiskeyBent
Member since Jul 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:28 am to
The Fast Break teams should be ruled out to - not fair if other team can't get back on D. Lots of injury potential as well.
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:14 am to
quote:

offensive coaches are out working defensive coaches


Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

Alabama's defense was 6th in scoring defense even after the Iron Bowl and Sugar Bowl. It wasn't on par with some of the years past , but it was still one of the best in the country. That's the point of these threads. Even the best defenses in the country can't find a solution to combat the tempo.

At what poin do we allow recievers to get a running start like arena football? It increases offense and that's what you all want, right?

Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:50 am to
I agree with several points that represent both sides of the argument.

The beauty of the up-tempo spread offense for me is that it doesn't allow for the D-Coordinator to rotate players for particular downs or schemes.

I would say that the best defense for this type of offense is to analyze tendencies. Every O-Coordinator has their go-to on particular down and distance, so as a D-Coordinator you have to coach up your defense to anticipate plays and recognize offensive personnel placement on the field.

Oregon systematically picked Florida State to pieces, because FSU could not change their personnel to adapt to down and distance. Oregon toyed with them, and probably could have put up 70 in all likelihood.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48910 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:23 am to
Football is cyclical

People only complain when it is convenient for themselves. Oregon is really the only team that can run at that kind of a pace consistently. It's not like every team is going 100 mph every game
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16179 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:33 am to
herbie wears a tampon.
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:46 am to
Solid analysis. We need more football minds like you are here.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22087 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:48 am to
ALL defenses are having problems - talent doesn't matter as much. Alabama had a 5th year QB/former DB/RB, who had no business being behind center this year, break offensive records running a faster-paced game. Auburn had a QB (who probably should have been playing DB or RB) take them to the Natty last year. The pace now, not the (what we think of as historical quarterbacking) ability of the player, dictates a lot of success these days.

Everything we knew about football is changing from an offensive prospective. Teams without the talent of other teams are much more likely to play competitively with these type of offenses.

Is adapting now letting a team have 500-600 yards of offense but do your best to play more rugged in the red zone (like Bama did to Auburn) and holding down your turnovers (like Bama didn't do against OSU)?

Think about it, Alabama had more yards this year than in the past, yet scored fewer points than they have in the past few years. Is that progress?

I don't know what the answer is. I'm not in favor of changing any rules on offense though. What can you do from a defensive perspective though?
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30858 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:51 am to
I'm perfectly fine for tempo.

I'm against teams using tempo to break other rules (like getting a ineligible receiver downfield, etc).

Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:51 am to
I like the HUNH offenses. The defenders have to use their brains along with athleticism to stop the offenses now more than ever. Whip the defensive line into shape and let's play ball.
Posted by BoominHogtown
Quantico
Member since Dec 2012
421 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:00 am to
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You are a bych for wanting to watch pussy ball. I have made up my mind to watch the NFL and quit watching college football if something doesn't change. Sissy fricks like you are what is wrong, not Herbstreit.


Let the butthurt flow through you
Posted by BoominHogtown
Quantico
Member since Dec 2012
421 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:10 am to
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Confirms my suspicion, you have to be under 14. That's the only age group that I'm aware of that uses this phrase.


damn yo you burned him good mayne
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:16 am to
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Sissy fricks like you are what is wrong, not Herbstreit.


Herby and the buckeyes fricked bammer so hard and good...I think you may be in love.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 8:35 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42392 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:17 am to
Of course Herbstreit is this week
Give me a break
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