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re: Heisman Odds. Jeremy and Chubb with lowest SEC odds
Posted on 7/8/15 at 6:28 am to DuncanIdaho
Posted on 7/8/15 at 6:28 am to DuncanIdaho
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I guess that's why he stayed. I don't know how you bench a NC winning QB though.
Any of those 3 QBs would have been a NC winning QB on that team.
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 6:31 am to allin2010
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Jeremy Johnson, Auburn: 10/1
Nick Chubb, Georgia: 10/1
This is by no means a flame or any sort of anti-auburn thing....but it just blows my mind the preseason love JJ is getting. I'm sure he'll be pretty good, no doubt. But heisman talk already? same odds as chubb? The guy has barely played much. Sure he's looked good when he has, but there is just suuuuch a LIMITED body of work on him.
I'm assuming that Gus's history of QBs would indicate that JJ will be next in line and he'll put up big numbers. He could...he very well could. But you'd think the national media and sportsbooks would at least want to see him start his first game or play a full 60 minutes first before giving him all this praise.
He might be my biggest wildcard type player in the league this season, that I most want to see that I dont' know much about yet.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 7:45 am to JuiceTerry
It's Boykins to lose. Period.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 7:57 am to JuiceTerry
Cardayle and JT. Have odds just larger odds.
Cardayle , has the big arm , but he didn't really carry the team it was about their defense and EE. Defenses loaded the box to stop EE and that opened up over he top. I don't know that CJ can lead the team like BM or JTB. I highly doubt he has the whole playbook, and can make the short to intermediate reads and throws.
I think JT will be the starter by playoff.
Cardayle , has the big arm , but he didn't really carry the team it was about their defense and EE. Defenses loaded the box to stop EE and that opened up over he top. I don't know that CJ can lead the team like BM or JTB. I highly doubt he has the whole playbook, and can make the short to intermediate reads and throws.
I think JT will be the starter by playoff.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:07 am to 3rddownonthe8
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I don't know that CJ can lead the team like BM or JTB
Jones was really clutch. He made good decisions. He played more than admirably considering the situation.
Anyone in here thinking it's not Boykin's to lose didn't watch him play last year.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:14 am to allin2010
Well...
I am disappointed that Kyler Murray is not getting at least 14/1 odds....from the bench.
I am disappointed that Kyler Murray is not getting at least 14/1 odds....from the bench.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:17 am to Sancho Panza
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Prescott was 7/1 in January; what has changed?
They're odds. What changed is the same thing that always changes, the money is clearly going on other players.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:22 am to WG_Dawg
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I'm assuming that Gus's history of QBs would indicate that JJ will be next in line and he'll put up big numbers. He could...he very well could. But you'd think the national media and sportsbooks would at least want to see him start his first game or play a full 60 minutes first before giving him all this praise.
Again, we are talking about odds. They are designed for the house to hedge its book of bets. Johnson's odds are a reflection of the public's perception of him. It isn't sportsbooks who want to take a wait and see approach. Also, why would a sportsbook want to give better odds on someone?
The fundamental misunderstanding on this board of the meaning of Vegas lines astounds me.This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:23 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:24 am to therick711
I understand vegas lines, their sole purpose is to make money. But with a line like 10/1 on a QB that has never started a game, you'd think they'd get a lot more action on having him further down the pack at this point in time. Based on both of their career accopmlishments at this point, what neutral bettor (ie, not an SEC fan) would put money on JJ to win the heisman over chubb with them having the same odds?
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:25 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:24 am to MSU4ever
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LOL won't take long for you to know our WR corp
They really aren't impressive. Wilson is raw and the rest blow. Sowwy :(
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:25 am to therick711
quote:It's pretty incredible.
The fundamental misunderstanding on this board of the meaning of Vegas lines astounds me.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:25 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Anyone in here thinking it's not Boykin's to lose didn't watch him play last year.
I watched him play and saw him have the same stats, maybe slightly worse, as Prescott in a weaker conference.
Dak: 42 TD's, 10 INT's, 61.6%, 151.7 Rate.
Boykin: 41 TD's, 10 INT's, 61.2%, 145.9 Rate.
Sounds like some of you didn't watch Prescott if you think it's Boykins to lose.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:26 am to WG_Dawg
quote:wrong
a QB that has never started a game,
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:26 am to WG_Dawg
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I understand vegas lines, their sole purpose is to make money. But with a line like 10/1 on a QB that has never started a game, you'd think they'd get a lot more action on having him further down the pack at this point in time. Based on both of their career accopmlishments at this point, what neutral bettor (ie, not an SEC fan) would put money on JJ to win the heisman over chubb with them having the same odds?
One that understands that 13 of the last 15 Heisman winners have been quartered backs (13 of the last 16 if you don't recognize the vacating of Bush's Heisman).
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:28 am to therick711
Up vote.
No kidding???
Wasn't asking about odds, but, rather, making a point that nothing has changed since January...
No kidding???
Wasn't asking about odds, but, rather, making a point that nothing has changed since January...
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:29 am to Sancho Panza
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Wasn't asking about odds, but, rather, making a point that nothing has changed since January...
Except the only thing that matters: the action that the books have gotten after the posting of preliminary lines. This isn't as hard as you guys are trying to make it.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:33 am to skirpnasty
quote:Meh, you cut out the OOC opponents and Prescott's numbers are worse.
I watched him play and saw him have the same stats, maybe slightly worse, as Prescott in a weaker conference.
Dak: 42 TD's, 10 INT's, 61.6%, 151.7 Rate.
Boykin: 41 TD's, 10 INT's, 61.2%, 145.9 Rate.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:35 am to joeyb147
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Meh, you cut out the OOC opponents and Prescott's numbers are worse.
He played really well down the stretch, defense was what lost us games. He only played about half of the OOC games, our backup got a lot of snaps early last season. With exception to Georgia Tech, who he had over 500 yards of offense against.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:36 am to joeyb147
Sancho is on a downvote spree because his feelings got hurt by Heisman futures. Think about that. The most meaningless thing in the world has bothered him. Hopefully, if nothing else, he learns what odds are and how they work.
Hopefully, if nothing else, he learns what odds are and how they work.Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:37 am to skirpnasty
quote:That doesn't change the fact that he only threw 13 TDs & 10 INTs in conference games compared to Boykin who threw 22 TDs and 6 INTs.
He only played about half of the OOC games
8 TD passes came against UAB & Southern Miss.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:39 am
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