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re: has CFB crested?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:41 pm to townhallsavoy
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:41 pm to townhallsavoy
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I don't blame TV so much. Perhaps there are many CFB fanboys who insist on watching five games a day instead of attending their favorite team's game.
In reality, it's the fact that Florida is opening with Toledo. Auburn will play Arkansas State and every team has a few "Little Sister for the Deaf and Slow" school on their schedule.
That's what stops consecutive sellouts. I think the playoff system will fix that in later years when it expands. Schools will recognize that they don't have to go undefeated to have a shot at the championship. They'll be more inclined to schedule more big games which will increase revenue rather than play a patsy $1 million dollars and watch their seats stay empty for a few Saturdays.
True but UF has basically a formula to open with a pathetic team and we sold out for ever. It's just recently we've had issues filling the swamp. I think less and less people want the trouble of going to a game. Cost is growing far to much. Though during the Tebow era you couldn't get a ticket to any game for under 125 bucks and those were nose bleeds.
Still. I don't like this. The crowds aren't as hostile either. The Swamp was straight nasty in the 90's. We hated the other team. Now everyone thinks going to a game means relaxing, half assing the Gator chomp off beat, and only cheering on third down or the fourth. Stand up every play and make noise if your defense is on the field you lazy F*******
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Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:41 pm to CockyInNola24
They were just there to see the other team 
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:42 pm to elvisleft
Because it isn't like Auby wont be a mediocre team for 3 seasons under an unproven coach whose only claim to fame is piggy backing on qb talent right?
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:42 pm to 3andOut
When was winning the national championship the criterion for showing up for home games?
The whole national championship fixation is an ESPN invention. People used to go see their team play, more when the team was good of course.
The whole national championship fixation is an ESPN invention. People used to go see their team play, more when the team was good of course.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:42 pm to lsutigertalk
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Because it isn't like Auby wont be a mediocre team for 3 seasons under an unproven coach whose only claim to fame is piggy backing on qb talent right?
Not big for trolling. Sorry.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:43 pm to SpartyGator
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:43 pm to elvisleft
Upset because I'm speaking truth huh? Just like all the butt hurt when I called Auby tanking last year.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:44 pm to AUsteriskPride
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If they aren't selling out, lower the ticket prices. Supply and demand. The economy is rough, gas is high, ticket prices are going up, HD TV makes staying home more appealing. It's a perfect storm.
Pretty much this
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:44 pm to elposter
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In fact I think the interest and passion is greater than it has ever been. It's just economic reality and television that is changing the dynamics.
Agreed! As the cost of attending a game increases, the cost of huge HDTV's decreases, and the number of televised games increases. It's also nice to have beer during college football ... and to tell them to hold the snap for a minute (hit pause), while you make a quick trip to the beer rental return station (bathroom). Lately, I think there has been a lot of attention devoted to trying to improve the game day experience at the stadiums to keep pace with the improving home viewing experience.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:44 pm to elvisleft
No. Attendance is not the only indicator. TV networks would not be locking in to multi-billion dollar contracts if CFB is on a decline.
Vandy/OM is a poor indicator. Nashville never has given a damn about Vandy football. Bama will sell all their tickets. UT, like nearly all down programs, has trouble selling all of their tickets because there has been little to get excited about other than coaching changes. At the moment, it's a 60k seat program trying to fill a 100k seat stadium.
Vandy/OM is a poor indicator. Nashville never has given a damn about Vandy football. Bama will sell all their tickets. UT, like nearly all down programs, has trouble selling all of their tickets because there has been little to get excited about other than coaching changes. At the moment, it's a 60k seat program trying to fill a 100k seat stadium.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:45 pm to elvisleft
At least you guys will be able to beat Mullens and maybe Mizzu or Kentucky if they get lucky enough to draw one of them.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:46 pm to lsutigertalk
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Upset because I'm speaking truth huh? Just like all the butt hurt when I called Auby tanking last year.
Congrats on the prediction.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:46 pm to shakermaker
Bama does not sell all their tickets. That's kind of the point. Their own students don't show up.
But I agree that TV may reflect more enthusiasm than ticket sales do. On the other hand, TV may have overpaid. We'll see.
But I agree that TV may reflect more enthusiasm than ticket sales do. On the other hand, TV may have overpaid. We'll see.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:47 pm to lsutigertalk
Should schools find ways to increase the want for live football then? I admit, it's hard to get up and go to the Swamp for Toledo. But I damn sure will. I can understand others not wanting too but I haven't missed a season opener in 11 years and I don't plan on every doing it. I want to see these guys run out of the tunnel for the first time and root my head off for them. Even if most likely I'll be dead from the heat and ready to call it a day by the third. I'm young too. I don't know how old people survive in the Swamp.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:48 pm to elvisleft
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Their own students don't show up.
Sadly, that's also an issue with other programs (not just SEC), TBH
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:51 pm to elvisleft
I think that the BCS has killed football a little bit. LSU and Alabama playing in the national championship game piqued no one's interest, and Notre Dame was a joke. I have little doubt that Oregon would have cruised past Notre Dame as well... I could go on for quite a while about how much I disliked Notre Dame's presence in that game.
I also believe that the SEC's "dominance" has been exaggerated. However, the media's hype regarding that has likely hampered enthusiasm outside of the south.
Regardless, I believe the four team playoff will re-energize fans. Not sure if it will really help attendance, as it's simply better to watch from home. The atmosphere is great, but being able to watch every game whilst getting the best view and not having to drive long distances is too convenient. If they want attendance to rise they should consider making ticket prices more reasonable. They have to adjust to demand.
I also believe that the SEC's "dominance" has been exaggerated. However, the media's hype regarding that has likely hampered enthusiasm outside of the south.
Regardless, I believe the four team playoff will re-energize fans. Not sure if it will really help attendance, as it's simply better to watch from home. The atmosphere is great, but being able to watch every game whilst getting the best view and not having to drive long distances is too convenient. If they want attendance to rise they should consider making ticket prices more reasonable. They have to adjust to demand.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:54 pm to elvisleft
And on-line streaming, on-demand programming, etc, not to mention increased quality of regional programming (the old days of JP Sports stinking up what should be a perfectly straightforward process of point and shoot are starting to show in the rearview mirror with improved technology and computerized bells-and-whistles)are all factors. It's hard to really say if enthusiasm in down in an era of increased access to convenient viewing from more comfortable places than the upper decks in 105 or 55 degree weather conditions.
Hell, if I can't watch a game on TV or make it to the stadium, I can always rely on the right message boards and sports sites to give me up-to-the-minute updates on how things are going and check for highlights, if not the entire game itself, later. Saves me the hassle of making time in my day to watch a game I know the team I'm rooting for gets blown out badly.
Hell, if I can't watch a game on TV or make it to the stadium, I can always rely on the right message boards and sports sites to give me up-to-the-minute updates on how things are going and check for highlights, if not the entire game itself, later. Saves me the hassle of making time in my day to watch a game I know the team I'm rooting for gets blown out badly.
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:55 pm to shakermaker
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No. Attendance is not the only indicator.
But it is the canary in the coal mine to viability of live games and stadium sales. Right now live games have the benefit of Baby Boomer money to soften the attendance numbers blow but they are entering retirement (and death) which means the big problem will surface over the next 20 years.
How many times did you go to a game with 4 - 8 family members and communicated with the folks sitting around you that you have known for 20 years or more?
How many times did you go to the game and text or play a game on your phone?
How many times did you go to games with older generations like your father, grandfather, or great grandfather? What about extended family like uncles by blood or marriage?
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Tickets + Donations + Parking + Concessions are way more expensive today so fewer groups.
Seats around you are less filled with folks you have known for ages and more folks writing off business expenses.
kids don't want to sit with parents much less grandparents. Kids today do not know how to initiate conversations with folks sitting next to them.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:58 pm to Cheese Grits
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Cheese Grits
Very Good points right there...although I'm guilty of posting a ton on TD at the stadium sometimes
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 12:59 pm to elvisleft
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Bama does not sell all their tickets
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