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Has Auburn struggled because Gus was told not to cheat?

Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Under_Oath
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:03 pm
The huge controversy surrounding Cam Newton and his father was settled and no evidence was found to convict Auburn, but most people feel like there was some deception in the recruiting process of Newton. The year with Marshall was one of the luckiest seasons in the history of NCAA. Auburn has been good periodically throughout history, but what we are seeing here is something that's even bad for Auburn. I think they are recovering from years of cheating and it's taking a while to get all of it out of the program and learning how to win without it.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26704 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:04 pm to
This thread is hella little bro
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30243 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:04 pm to
Auburn has consistently recruited top 10 talent every year. Take a look, they have 4-5* talent all over that roster.

What point are you trying to make?
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25494 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Has Auburn struggled because Gus was told not to cheat?



No. They just suck.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5830 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:06 pm to
They have a DL full of 5" because Gus is such a great recruiter?
Posted by AUcarlton
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2016
86 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:06 pm to
No, Gus was told to limit his playbook to 5 plays per quarterback.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24929 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:06 pm to
No. Seems to me Gus needs the exact right QB to run his system and for some reason he (1) hasn't recruited that QB (2) hasn't been able to develop that QB and/or (3) is incapable of changing the offensive to work with the personnel he has. This is all surprising to me. When he first came on the scene it seemed like he was innovative.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79234 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:06 pm to
Gus is a stubborn a-hole

So I don't think being told not to cheat would impact him.
Posted by Under_Oath
Lincoln's Hat
Member since Aug 2016
267 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:08 pm to
There's a lot more ways to cheat than by paying players to come there. Paying players to perform better in the games.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:09 pm to
I've seen some bad threads on here over the years, but this has to be top 5. Congrats
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5830 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:11 pm to
Dating back to the Pat Dye days, the DL has been the area where AU has chosen to spend their money, same plan is still in effect.
Posted by colors_of_kings
Tiger Country
Member since Aug 2014
1506 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:13 pm to
Gus is a good guy like Les, and we all know where nice guys finish.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30243 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

There's a lot more ways to cheat than by paying players to come there. Paying players to perform better in the games.


What? The players aren't playing bad in games though.

The coaches aren't putting them in a position to be successful.

The play-calling has been inept at times and just plain idiotic (whirly bird) other times, the roster management (QB carousel vs Clemson/Pettway?), and the oline personnel set up & blocking scheme has been poor and ineffective.

Posted by Fan of Football
Jeanerette
Member since Sep 2016
657 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Has Auburn struggled because Gus was told not to cheat?

Been thinking this since last season. Now that Gus is having to lay low and can't recruit the cam Newton caliber players his offense has went to wet donkey shite
Posted by Under_Oath
Lincoln's Hat
Member since Aug 2016
267 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:20 pm to
I'm really not trying to flame, I just don't see the Magic the Auburn program has been know for recently. I guess we were all fooled by thinking Gus was a good coach.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:22 pm to
I've always heard from LSU friends living in B.ham for decades that the Little General shut down a lot of the over board cheating that was going on, specifically a system where AU players were directed to go a certain booster's chain of cleaners for their "dry cleaning". Upon picking up their clothes, the money was in the inside pocket. Story goes that he lost it when he heard how systematic is was; an AU alum supposedly told him :'Coach, we're tired of losing to bama. We mite as well cheat & win some games". Any one else in Aubb land heard this one?
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26704 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

cam Newton caliber players

Because there are several of these in every class right?
Posted by Fan of Football
Jeanerette
Member since Sep 2016
657 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:28 pm to
You know what I mean
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26704 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:30 pm to
I get that this is a flame and everything, but if you put any stock in recruiting ranking then acquiring talent hasn't been our problem. Development is the area to attack. But like I said, I get that this is a flame and rationale goes out the window when it comes to flaming so continue
Posted by Under_Oath
Lincoln's Hat
Member since Aug 2016
267 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:34 pm to
They could have paid Lamar Jackson to come there just like Cam.
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