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re: Great Description of Landon Collins On-field Play

Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:09 pm to
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KTFO

what does this mean???
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:08 pm to
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If this site is accurate, his 40 time is in the bottom 3rd of the league for strong safeties.


That can't be accurate. He was tied for top 40 time among 6 SS's at the combine and was faster than 6 of 9 FS's: LINK

Looking through past combines, 4.53 is above average. Interesting that Eric Reid also ran 4.53
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:54 pm to
Collins is really a 3rd-4th round pick. He is going to be a liability in pass coverage in a pass happy league. Otherwise, he will be added to the bust list below.


NFL draft guru Mel Kiper Jr.'s concerns about Alabama first-round draft prospects Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and C.J. Mosley go beyond his personal analysis of them.

On an ESPN conference call Wednesday afternoon, Kiper said the play of past Crimson Tide defensive players in the NFL who have been high draft picks will play into his evaluation of Clinton-Dix and Mosley.

"It is something you have to look at because there have been a host of players out of that Alabama defense that over the years have come in as high draft choices and, frankly, been major disappointments," Kiper said.

Kiper listed Rolando McClain, Kareem Jackson, Mark Barron, Dre Kirkpatrick and Terrence Cody as examples of Tide defensive stars who haven't played up to where they were drafted.

I think Mark Barron is a good player but just not as good as he was picked.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:11 pm to
That's a little out-dated. Since Kiper said those things not only did CJ Mosley and Ha-Ha live up to their first round draft positions, but Rolando and Dre had good seasons. Kareem just signed a four-year, $34 million contract with $20 million guaranteed which seems like a lot for a bust but what do I know?

And since you value the evaluations of NFL draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. you might be interested to know that he has LC going to the Steelers in the first round and had this to say about him:

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"My evaluation of him hasn't changed at all," Kiper wrote. "But in most cases when you're drafting in Round 1, you're looking for a player who can come in and contribute, if not start, pretty early, so players rise and fall all the time on fit. Even if the Steelers decide to bring back the future that is Hall of Famer Troy Polamalu, they certainly need to prepare for life without him. Collins would be a good replacement as a highly versatile safety who can make plays at the line of scrimmage and will cover. He brings a ton of experience, and the expectation is that he'll be able to help a defense right away. That could be exactly what Pittsburgh needs, which could make him a great value here."
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by tigerfan5803
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Unanimous All American and national championship winner Landon Collins? Wish him the best. Incredible ambassador for the University of Alabama Crimson Tide!


He so loved going out with that A on side his helmet and representing UA!
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:24 pm to
Will not be a first rounder unless the team selecting him can offer a front office job to the GF
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:26 pm to
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3rd - 4th round pick
Full unadulterated retard right there, ladies and gentlemen. I've truly never seen such an average All American cause such pain and suffering to so many idiots before. It's astounding.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:58 am to
Alright, I'll step out from the mold.

I hope he gets picked by the right team and does well. He's talented, and a hard worker, and will do wonders for the right team. It's obvious he got dealt a bad hand. He deserves a fair shot to be a star.

Fair?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22589 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 3:39 am to
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Collins was inconsistent in coverage last season though. At his best he was amazing (Florida and State games come to mind) but he had a couple of really bad ones (Mississippi and OSU). I see him as a late first round, early second type of guy but the talent at safety is seemingly lacking after him so I wouldn't be surprised to see a team scoop him up a bit early.


OSU? He played great most of the game and did so injured. Played with a ton of heart and gave it everything he had.

Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 5:52 am to
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Will not be a first rounder unless the team selecting him can offer a front office job to the GF

Deserves a repost
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43793 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 6:43 am to
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Looking through past combines, 4.53 is above average. Interesting that Eric Reid also ran 4.53


The 40 time argument is ridiculous. He isn't a liability in coverage because of a lack of speed. He's a liability because, from what I've seen which is very limited, he gets caught looking in the backfield.

He will be drafted as a SS and will be a good one in the NFL. He just doesn't have the instincts in coverage to play FS.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:37 am to
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The 40 time argument is ridiculous. He isn't a liability in coverage because of a lack of speed. He's a liability because, from what I've seen which is very limited, he gets caught looking in the backfield.

He will be drafted as a SS and will be a good one in the NFL. He just doesn't have the instincts in coverage to play FS.


This. He likely has a solid career, maybe even a great career. He just won't do so as a CF-type FS
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:41 am to
It was funny
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:42 am to
All that and the guy's gonna be a 1st round draft choice! Who said that it wasn't the smart move for a recruit to come to Bama where EVERYONE gets drafted.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:46 am to
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Collins is really a 3rd-4th round pick


Can't tell if you just hate Alabama that much, or if you're still salty an 18-year-old didn't decide to attend your favorite school.

Either way, with an analysis like that, you might not want to tune in April 30th.
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