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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:39 pm to RTR America
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I just think the transition down is easier than going the other direction as we've seen.
Who has there been that's been exclusively NBA and transitioned to college? I only ask because I know there's been guys who haven't been college HCs previous without college experience outside of playing (i.e. Fred Hoiberg at Iowa State, Brad Stevens, etc). Dan Majerle has been decent at Grand Canyon given the history (or lack thereof) of the program. Unless you're just talking about guys who have gone up to the NBA and come back down.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:39 pm to the808bass
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succes is not transferable between the two levels
Youre just pulling shite out of your arse at this point. Tell all of us about Cam Cameron and how him being fired from everywhere doesn't matter. 
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:44 pm to JuiceTerry
I'm not. I'm pointing out alternate interpretations. If the NBA was just harder than college, you'd think the best college coaches would be at least moderately successful in the pros. That hasn't happened. So it's not a simple case of NBA coaches can coach in college Cuz it's the lower level of the two.
They're very different jobs and success at one level doesn't predict success at the other.
They're very different jobs and success at one level doesn't predict success at the other.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:44 pm to jatebe
If passion, enthusiasm, and giving a good presser was correlative to winning football games, Will Muschamp would still be a HC. But alas, it doesn't.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:45 pm to dallasga6
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:52 pm to the808bass
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'm not. I'm pointing out alternate interpretations. If the NBA was just harder than college, you'd think the best college coaches would be at least moderately successful in the pros. That hasn't happened. So it's not a simple case of NBA coaches can coach in college Cuz it's the lower level of the two.
They're very different jobs and success at one level doesn't predict success at the other.
Obviously they are different jobs and favor different coaching styles and skill sets. I think most college coaches like teaching young people as well which would certainly draw them to the role. Belles point about the "high risk" transition between managing a pro program and managing a college program is completely fabricated and exists nowhere in reality.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:52 pm to the808bass
Some college coaches have transitioned fine. Others haven't.
Guys like Cal and Pitino that aren't super strong X's and O's guys struggled. Brad Stevens on the other hand has done an incredible job given the talent at his disposal.
No one from the NBA ranks with the resume AJ has tried CBB. Most career long NBA guys stay there, even if it is as an assistant.
Guys that do have some pro experience have done some good things in CBB.
Guys like Cal and Pitino that aren't super strong X's and O's guys struggled. Brad Stevens on the other hand has done an incredible job given the talent at his disposal.
No one from the NBA ranks with the resume AJ has tried CBB. Most career long NBA guys stay there, even if it is as an assistant.
Guys that do have some pro experience have done some good things in CBB.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:53 pm to the808bass
I'll take my chances with a guy that has proven himself on the highest level coming down a level and being a good coach there, too. Yall can talk about all of the failures from the college ranks, and all it tells me is that Avery must just be a better coach than them.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:55 pm to Robin Masters
The thing that got Avery in trouble is that some of the millionaires didn't like his style of coaching (Deron Williams). I've seen quite a few people say they think he is a better fit to coach college kids.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:06 pm to Robin Masters
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Belles point about the "high risk" transition between managing a pro program and managing a college program is completely fabricated and exists nowhere in reality.
You're kidding me right?
So you're going to sit here and tell us that no coach has ever had an issue transitioning from college to pro level in any sport? Basketball or otherwise?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:08 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:I agree. One has coached in the NBA finals and won NBA coach of the year. The other has accomplished dick.
Comparing Avery to Bruce Pearl. Lol.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So you're going to sit here and tell us that no coach has ever had an issue transitioning from college to pro level in any sport? Basketball or otherwise?
Are you drunk?
We are specifically talking about your concerns of AJ's moving from pro basketball to college basketball and all the "obvious" challenges that AJ will face in managing the program which, in your mind, makes him a "high risk" hire.
Its become pretty obvious you are flapping your digital gums and know nothing about which you speak nor can you even offer some links to similar circumstances which have occurred in the past. Haters gonna hate I guess.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:19 pm to jatebe
Has bama retroactively claimed the NBA championships as theirs yet?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:20 pm to harmonics
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The other has accomplished dick.
Hahaha, yet if he was at bama you would say he has accomplished a lot.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:20 pm to Whiskey Man
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Has bama retroactively claimed the NBA championships as theirs yet?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:21 pm to AUTigermitch1995
But he's not at Bama. So we talk shite about him. Catch up son.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:23 pm to Patton
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Catch up son.
I see you.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:24 pm to harmonics
quote:SEC champion and Rupp National Coach of the year.
The other has accomplished dick.
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:25 pm to Robin Masters
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Are you drunk?
Are you? Any more insults you want to try to throw out because you think the rest of are idiots or something who have never followed college basketball or coaching hires a day in our lives?
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We are specifically talking about your concerns of AJ's moving from pro basketball to college basketball and all the "obvious" challenges that AJ will face in managing the program which, in your mind, makes him a "high risk" hire.
Correct. My point still stands I believe. And there are lots of examples where the transition from one level to the next hasn't been smooth. Seems everyone can see that except yourself because you take it so damn personally that someone disagrees with you.
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Its become pretty obvious you are flapping your digital gums and know nothing about which you speak nor can you even offer some links to similar circumstances which have occurred in the past. Haters gonna hate I guess.
You never answered me earlier when I asked to find where I said he wouldn't be a good hire or where I hope that he's unsuccessful.
Calipari and Pitino are good examples of bad transitions from college to pro (and both are Hall of Fame coaches). Even Larry Brown has struggled with dealing with the NCAA and keeping his nose clean in college.
But you're right, it's all because haters and going to hate. There's absolutely no benefit to UK for the conference to be stronger.
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