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re: "Get ready for the ride of your life at Coleman Coliseum" - Avery Johnson

Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:38 pm to
Thanks Albert.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:40 pm to
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"Get ready for the ride of your life at Coleman Coliseum" - Avery Johnson
I just hope he's tall enough to ride it
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22366 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:57 pm to
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Great day in the morning! Then what does everybody in the media say about Auburn's basketball program?


That we beat LSU twice this year. Varoooom!
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:58 pm to
Between the donkey pic, which is always good for a laugh, and dallas' Auburnphan batman signal, this tread delivers.
Posted by GoShox
Clemson, SC
Member since Apr 2015
83 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:00 pm to
I like this guy's spunk.

The worst thing I can imagine is for a coach to go to a new school and just accept the mediocrity of the program and go with it.

I just hope Bama fans realize this isn't a one year thing. He's coach and suddenly they're a contender for a national title. I give it 3 years before they can even think about an NIT title, if this guy is as good as his price tag implies.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:09 pm to
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I just hope Bama fans realize this isn't a one year thing. He's coach and suddenly they're a contender for a national title. I give it 3 years before they can even think about an NIT title, if this guy is as good as his price tag implies.



I keep seeing people saying stuff like this. I'm not saying we will for sure make the tourney and the last thing I'm saying is we will make a run in the tourney. I think we can be a bubble team just like this year though, and hopefully Avery can draw up the plays needed to win the close games we lost this year.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:28 pm to
Ditto bud.
Posted by BamaStepL
Ttown
Member since Feb 2011
2334 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:40 pm to
don't be worrying about us Bama fans we good! Our expectations are intact... we just want to enjoy the ride and not lose 6 of 10 games by 1 point.

a lot of you don't realize how close Alabama really is to being a great program... if grant wins three of those games we are in the tourney.

Probably came one game short of going to the tourney three straight years.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29723 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:46 pm to
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GoShox


quote:

I like this guy's spunk


This is a family board sir!
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5828 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:50 pm to
Alabama isn't a major rebuild. Not guaranteeing it, but the talent is there to be a tourney team next year.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:07 pm to
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I give it 3 years before they can even think about an NIT title, if this guy is as good as his price tag


I agree with not expecting a Top25 team right way but it's also not like the Alabama program is in rebuilding mode due to a bad returning roster.

They return a pretty solid, balanced, experienced roster and have a fairly decent recruiting class.

Their problem: it's about the same type talent as for the past 5-6 years: NCAA bubble/NIT higher seed but missing the couple of real difference makers.

Hiring Avery Johnson seems a gamble in not knowing how successfully he'll adjust his coaching to the college game (though I would guess he'll be a pretty damn good recruiter).

Unlike most coaching changes, it's not like he's walking into a rebuilding project though aside from rekindling fan excitement.

Alabama fans were tired of Grant's tenure because it was an era of one "near miss" after another whether in single games, recruiting targets, or NCAA bids. The Wichita St/Alabama game this year, for example, could be a metaphor for his entire 6 seasons.

The upshot of that though is that Grant left the program in pretty good shape (which is why there were some in the AD reluctant to fire him).

I think it's fair for Alabama fans to give AJ a one season pass in adjusting to the college game. From then on though, he's being hired to improve on what Grant was doing which was a NIT seed every single season.


This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 8:18 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:07 pm to
6 out of 10 games by 1 mothafreakin points! Screw Anthony Grant
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:09 pm to
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Most overrated/overused comment relative to this hire. It's basketball for crying outloud.


If you can't discern the difference between running an NBA team as an HC (where you have GMs, owners, scouts, etc.) and running a college program (where you have to deal with recruiting/NCAA rules, a change in rules/structure, etc) then I'm not sure what to tell you.

I'm not saying he's a bad hire, but you'd have to be pretty naive to not see that there's some risk in hiring a guy who has never coached the college level before. Hiring a staff that is familiar with the college game and can assist in the transition will be a big move as I said earlier.

Really, you don't need to be so insecure.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29723 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:30 pm to
From Larry Brown who won both a NCAA Championship and NBA:
(Sounds like compared to NBA, NCAA hoops is a breeze)

quote:

“The games are completely different,” he said. “When you’re at a college game, in the second half you probably have to make two or three decisions late. In a pro game you probably make 30. And you times that by 100, and then times that by 30, and there’s a huge, huge difference. And it’s a marathon, not a sprint. College has much fewer games. In the NBA, a lot of these great college coaches — I coached young guys who lost more games in a two-week period than they did their whole college careers. So that’s no fun. That’s a huge adjustment for coaches, too. That’s not easy.”




Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15226 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:35 pm to
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Comparing Avery to Bruce Pearl.
One of those two isn't a documented liar.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:38 pm to
What a fricking train wreck. Guys like this are always so excited in the first 6 months then they realise they can't recruit and can't develope the people they've got, two years later the same excited guy can't face his own media. Its like the Dooley effect over and over again.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:45 pm to
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From Larry Brown who won both a NCAA Championship and NBA


He's also had violations at every NCAA stop (UCLA nad Kansas) except SMU thus far. It's not just about bench coaching. It's about managing the program too. Larry Brown is definitely the exception more than the rule.

Like I said earlier, you have to incredibly naive to dismiss the concern over a transition for someone who has never coached on the college level before. That's not shitting on your hire. Just being realistic that it's a high risk/high reward situation.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:47 pm to
Why? Because it is tougher to coach in college?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29723 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:53 pm to
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Why? Because it is tougher to coach in college?


I think thats what she's trying to have us believe. Because apparently in the pros there is no management whatsoever, you just show up to the game and call plays. And in the pros all your assistants do everything for you, unlike in college where it's just you and the team. Avery will probably have to drive the team bus to away games so I hope is CDL is up to date.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:55 pm to
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Why? Because it is tougher to coach in college?


Does coaching in college begin and end with your clipboard on the court? I think he'll be fine from an X's and O's aspect. But it's a fairly large adjustment from the day to day operations of an NBA program to a College Basketball program (and vice versa if you look at the quality of college coaches that have tried and failed at moving from college to the NBA). And I'm speaking mostly about dealing with the recruiting game, AAU, and the NCAA.

You really think it's a stretch to think there could be an issue there, depending on who he surrounds himself with on staff? That's the biggest key for him IMO. That and getting that first recruit momentum. Never said he can't do it, but I wouldn't be shocked if there's a couple speed bumps in the transition either.
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