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re: "Get ready for the ride of your life at Coleman Coliseum" - Avery Johnson

Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:56 pm to
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I think thats what she's trying to have us believe. Because apparently in the pros there is no management whatsoever, you just show up to the game and call plays. And in the pros all your assistants do everything for you, unlike in college where it's just you and the team. Avery will probably have to drive the team bus to away games so I hope is CDL is up to date.


Because that's absolutely what I said. Don't be a homer just because I pointed out that it's a high risk/high reward higher given his lack of experience in the NCAA.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted by MustangReb
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:57 pm to
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From Larry Brown who won both a NCAA Championship and NBA:
(Sounds like compared to NBA, NCAA hoops is a breeze)


Brown also had the strength of UCLA's name behind him to make up for his lack of college coaching experience while there. Alabama doesn't have that advantage in basketball.

At SMU, he was given the budget to go out and hire another Division 1 head coach to be his associate head coach to help him run the 'college' aspects of the program.

I think Avery has the potential to be a good hire if he surrounds himself with people who know the college basketball landscape and aren't just NBA washouts. If nothing else, he's already learned to get fired graciously since he's been fired from the only two head coaching jobs he ever had before Alabama.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:58 pm to
And it has already been discussed how he already has very good AAU connections. His name will attract talent alone.

I know there will be speed bumps, but I have he can make Bama a relatively frequent tourney team. That is all I can ask for at this point.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:00 pm to
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And it has already been discussed how he already has very good AAU connections. His name will attract talent alone.



It's definitely a good start. Like I said earlier, I'm interested in seeing who he hires on staff. That'll be just as important as his name recognition/AAU connections.

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I know there will be speed bumps, but I have he can make Bama a relatively frequent tourney team. That is all I can ask for at this point.


I don't think that's a stretch either. I honestly hope that's the case.
Posted by S
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:01 pm to
as a kid growing up in texas i will always fondly remember avery for those ibc bank commercials
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:04 pm to
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Because that's absolutely what I said. Don't be a homer just because I pointed out that it's a high risk/high reward higher given his lack of experience in the NCAA.


The transition from NBA to college is not a coaching challenge, end of story. There maybe a recruiting challenge as he develops relationships but from a program management perspective his experience as a NBA coach gives him more than enough experience. His nickname is theLittle General for gods sake. You are the one who is naive.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:11 pm to
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His nickname is theLittle General for gods sake.


Goddamn. He was nicknamed this while he was playing. Because he was a point guard. And because of his friendship with "the Admiral."

You just made an argument for his program management based upon his nickname while playing. I'm guessing Julius Erving is seeing patients now.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:15 pm to
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Goddamn. He was nicknamed this while he was playing. Because he was a point guard. And because of his friendship with "the Admiral."


No shite Sherlock. And he got it for his leadership on the team. Which speaks to his assertiveness in running a program, NBA or otherwise. Is everyone here retarded?

From wik
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During his playing days, Johnson was known as the "Little General" for his small stature (by NBA standards), his leadership skills as a point guard and floor general, and his close friendship with former San Antonio Spurs teammate David "The Admiral" Robinson.


This is funny though.
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You just made an argument for his program management based upon his nickname while playing. I'm guessing Julius Erving is seeing patients now
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:18 pm to
So every NBA point guard is now a college basketball coaching candidate.
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Is everyone here retarded?

No. Not everyone.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:19 pm to
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You just made an argument for his program management based upon his nickname while playing. I'm guessing Julius Erving is seeing patients now.




And apparently we're all being naive by making the, what I thought was, obvious assumption that there is an actual transition from coaching one level of a sport to another (like with any other sport).
Posted by Daigeaux
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:19 pm to
The man was fired from two coaching positions and had multiple NCAA violations? ...and they're handing him 3 mil a year?

L m f a o
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:22 pm to
I just think the transition down is easier than going the other direction as we've seen.

Longer shot clock to work with, more timeouts, more practice time, slower pace, no defensive 3 seconds, etc.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:24 pm to
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The man was fired from two coaching positions and had multiple NCAA violations? ...and they're handing him 3 mil a year?

L m f a o


Calipari and Pitino were also fired from NBA gigs and didn't sniff the success he achieved.

And quick question, how could a man who has never coached in college have multiple NCAA violations....
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:24 pm to
Bama is so screwed. Nobody wanted this guy. Nobody.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:27 pm to
Seriously where do yall get this stuff?

The man has been rumored for nearly every NBA job opening the last few years
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:27 pm to
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Our goal is to make Alabama the leader of the college basketball world


quote:

Our players are going to be players of high character


Well which is it?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:27 pm to
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Calipari and Pitino were also fired from NBA gigs and didn't sniff the success he achieved.

Which suggests to me that success is not transferable between the two levels. Not that NBA coaches can all do college coaching. If they could, certainly they'd all take the easier job and laid back schedule. Right?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:28 pm to
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And apparently we're all being naive by making the, what I thought was, obvious assumption that there is an actual transition from coaching one level of a sport to another (like with any other sport).


What is naive is to assume that because you perceive the transition to be detrimental that other people will not easily take it stride as part of their normal job as a solver of problems and leader of people.


Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:31 pm to
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What is naive is to assume that because you perceive the transition to be detrimental that other people will not easily take it stride as part of their normal job as a solver of problems and leader of people.


Please feel free to go back and point out where I said there's no way he ends up being a good hire or that it's impossible he has success. Never once did I say that.

You're talking in absolutes and being pretty ridiculous about it just as you were in all the Gregg Marshall threads.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 9:32 pm
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