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re: Future GOATs hit the practice field

Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:06 pm to
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No one said that. It depends on the scheme they're used in and Mack won't be used correctly in Chavis' system.


Mack will be very, very good for aTm in time. He's going to get pushed around just like every other freshman DT does until he learns how to play the position with technique. Raw ability isn't enough when going up against the maulers the anchor the middle in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:07 pm to
LSU fans were pleasuring themselves when they thought they had a chance to recruit Mack to come play for Chavis.


Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:08 pm to
I wish we could pull the rant commentary regarding Mack pre Chavis leaving LSU. I remember it being along the lines of "come play for Chavis at DLU."

Now because of Chavis, Mack probably will be lucky to see the field
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17355 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:08 pm to
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Mack will be very, very good for aTm in time. He's going to get pushed around just like every other freshman DT does until he learns how to play the position with technique. Raw ability isn't enough when going up against the maulers in the middle of the Oline in the SEC.


True.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:09 pm to
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It kills me that you think the right way to use a 6'1 330 pound interior DLmen is to get him to shoot gaps every play


Obviously not every play, but getting him into the backfield is his greatest strength.

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If he keeps his weight under control and takes care of his body, he's going to be an almost unblockable plug in the interior run defense.


No he won't.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43805 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:10 pm to
If he doesn't learn how to play the position he will be Anthony Johnson v. 1.5. They are very similar coming out of HS.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:10 pm to
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LSU fans were pleasuring themselves when they thought they had a chance to recruit Mack to come play for Chavis.


Every fanbase has idiots. I was never excited on having Mack potentially coming to LSU. Chavis and Brick wouldn't have been able to develop him anyway.

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If he doesn't learn how to play the position he will be Anthony Johnson v. 1.5. They are very similar coming out of HS.


x20000000

This is exactly why I'm saying he will be wasted.

Anthony Johnson was a good DT but never was used correctly. He knew how to play but his talents were wasted by Chavis.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 10:11 pm
Posted by ATLSU7
D.S.G.B.
Member since Sep 2014
343 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:11 pm to
Daylon Mack gone get pushed around like Myles Garrett did. Yall soft
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:11 pm to
Casey Hampton -- 6'1
John Randle -- 6'1
Kyle Williams -- 6'1
Jurell Casey -- 6'1

Nope. 6'1 is frickING TOO SHORT FOR DT!!!

LSU fans are some of the dumbest. Why? I don't get why you corndogs are so football and research dumb. What is it?


Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17355 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:11 pm to
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getting him into the backfield is his greatest strength.


Nope. Wrong wrong wrong. The greatest strength of a 6'1 330 pound interior DLmen is that it is nearly impossible to get under his pads and move him. He's a plugger.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:12 pm to
You need to look at film of the Saints DL when Ogeron coached them.

I personally heard a former high level NFL DL rip Ogeron a new one over the poor technique of the Saints DL.

By mid-season you'll know the truth.

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:13 pm to
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Nope. Wrong wrong wrong. The greatest strength of a 6'1 330 pound interior DLmen is that it is nearly impossible to get under his pads and move him. He's a plugger.



No. Just no. He is not a run stopper. He has too much speed and agility to be used in that way. His best use will be as a pass rusher.

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Kyle Williams -- 6'1


We all know that short DTs can be successful... in fact, this guy went to LSU and he's used as a pass rusher.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17355 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:13 pm to
Randle and Ball, both 6'1 Texans KILLED it for the Vikings back in the day. They were incredible together.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73362 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:13 pm to
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If he doesn't learn how to play the position he will be Anthony Johnson v. 1.5. They are very similar coming out of HS.


This. Aggies will understand soon
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43805 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:13 pm to
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This is exactly why I'm saying he will be wasted.

Anthony Johnson was a good DT but never was used correctly. He knew how to play but his talents were wasted by Chavis.


He will only turn out like Johnson if he's a lazy frick who doesn't want to put in the work to learn technique. If he's got the drive he could be a monster.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17355 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:15 pm to
He has incredible speed. That's what makes Mack so special. He can plug AND pass rush. But 6'1 330 pound interior DLmen are pluggers. Take a guy like that and give him quickness, too - and you've got a fricking monster.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50275 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:16 pm to
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That is one thick dude... I definitely want to see what he can do. His height and reach could be a problem. At the moment, he seems impressive.



The guy to his right is 6'6". He's easily 6'1". I don't think size is going to be an issue like all the scared LSU fans are making it out to be.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:16 pm to
I don't get where the notion that Anthony Johnson was lazy comes from. He was not taught properly and was not played to his strengths.

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But 6'1 330 pound interior DLmen are pluggers.


Maybe in a 3-4 but not in Chavis' scheme. You seriously don't understand. It's a 4-3 defense with two-gap responsibility. It makes no sense. If Mack can turn into a Brockers, maybe he'll be successful, but Brockers was a 6'6 330lb monster. I don't remember Chavis being successful with short DTs.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 10:18 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:16 pm to
A common misconception among football-dumb people about interior defensive linemen is that height matters. It's one of the clearest signs of football ignorance.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24366 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:18 pm to
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You need to look at film of the Saints DL when Ogeron coached them.

I personally heard a former high level NFL DL rip Ogeron a new one over the poor technique of the Saints DL.

By mid-season you'll know the truth.




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