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re: From Petrino, to John L., to Bielema's plan paying off: tFlagship rising

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Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:15 pm to
I don't think we're going to win the SEC this year, but do you really think anyone is scared of Les Miles? He gave birth to the infamous "team vote" to allow criminals back on the team, that's how much otherwordly power his grass-flavored words yield.

You don't have to be Bobby Petrino or Nick Saban levels of a-hole to be a good football coach. Look at Bill Snyder. Or Les Miles.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16317 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:16 pm to
No one here can read, but that's a fantastic article
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:18 pm to
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and last year probably could have (and should have) won at least five


Shoulda Coulda Woulda... That's what separates great teams from the rest.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:19 pm to
After reading this I remembered how convinced all the Arkansas fans were on here that they were still going to win the SEC with John L Smith coaching . All the talk of Tyler Wilson being at the helm, and most of the same coaches being in place would lead Arkansas to an SEC championship. It all came crashing down against ULM in War Memorial.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:20 pm to
Tldr; down voted.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:24 pm to
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A 3000 word article full of sunshine pumping

the only negatives - 2 conference wins the article pointed out
the sunshine - everything else the article pointed out

sorry I'm not sorry for the sunshine around our program outweighing the negatives. #bertoutweighsthenegatives
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why exactly does Arkansas have a chance to win the SEC again?

Great offensive line? Check.
5th year senior QB with 2 seasons of starting experience under his belt? Check.
At least 2 future NFL running backs? Check.
One of the top TE's in the country? Check.
Playmakers at WR? Check.
Schedule sets up well? Check (it's tough, but as far as how it's setup it's perfect).
Defense good enough to keep team in every game? Check.
Team is hungry? Bert.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:26 pm to
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No one here can read, but that's a fantastic article

yea. worth a try tho

trying to educate the rant isn't easy
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:27 pm to
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After reading this I remembered how convinced all the Arkansas fans were on here that they were still going to win the SEC with John L Smith coaching

on paper it sure looked promising
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:28 pm to
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Tldr

I can think of 17 reasons why you probably should care but don't
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:30 pm to
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do you really think anyone is scared of Les Miles
I've literally never heard a player gush over how nice Les Miles is, have you? But lemme guess, you think a person who you've never seen outside of his bullshite media interviews is nice because of a game he plays right? I've seen him in normal situations in real life and he's not anything like he portrays himself to be, he's no different than our baseball coach Paul Mainieri in the sense that he completely misrepresents himself to the media.
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He gave birth to the infamous "team vote" to allow criminals back on the team, that's how much otherwordly power his grass-flavored words yield.
Saban's let a ton of frickups back on Bama's team, does that mean his "words don't yield any power"? What a ridiculous reach at making Miles out to be soft. Last time I checked Miles has kicked some of our best players off the team in the last 6 years, he's not a pushover by any means. Keep comparing apples to oranges though. A coach with a 2-14 SEC record is definitely similar to one with 2 SEC championships and a national championship. Arkansas fans might just be the most delusional bunch out there
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:35 pm to
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No surprises here. A 3000 word article full of sunshine pumping and intangible reasons as to why a bottom tier team is going to be good this year. Aside from Bert being a bitch compared to Petrino, the fact this his players aren't scared of him and don't feel pressure to perform, and a bunch of statements made about how great of a coach he is from some hack writer with absolutely no stats or solid reasoning to back it up, why exactly does Arkansas have a chance to win the SEC again?


I can think of 17 different reasons why he would need 0 stats.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:39 pm to
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I've literally never heard a player gush over how nice Les Miles is, have you? But lemme guess, you think a person who you've never seen outside of his bullshite media interviews is nice because of a game he plays right?


No, I haven't. I've also never heard of legendary coldness like Petrino and Saban. Les Miles is, as you said, "a bitch" compared to those two (as are most coaches). Sorry about it.

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Keep comparing apples to oranges though. A coach with a 2-14 SEC record is definitely similar to one with 2 SEC championships and a national championship. Arkansas fans might just be the most delusional bunch out there


Comparing coaches who coach the same sport in the same conference is apples to oranges, is it. But your analysis of Bert in the same context is apples to apples, of course. You know him IRL as much as I do Les Miles. AND I get the bonus of being called delusional after I stated we're not going to win the SEC or any other outlandish thing? If you're going to be this horribly asshurt, at least be justified in it.





Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:44 pm to
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the only negatives - 2 conference wins the article pointed out
A 2-14 conference record over the past 2 years in an article talking about a team "competing for the SEC championship". What a minor negative!
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Great offensive line? Check.
Yep
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5th year senior QB with 2 seasons of starting experience under his belt? Check.
A QB who is mediocre at best? Check
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At least 2 future NFL running backs? Check
Yep, as does LSU, Georgia, Bama, and possibly Tennessee and Auburn. This isn't a big advantage in the SEC
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One of the top TE's in the country? Check.
Sure? Not really a big deal but alright
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Playmakers at WR? Check.
AthlonSports ranked your receivers 11th out of 14 in the SEC, and that's including ya'll's excellent TE. Your WR's are God awful
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Schedule sets up well? Check (it's tough, but as far as how it's setup it's perfect).
Don't Arkansas fans claim that the week before doesn't have any bearing on a team's performance the current week? Ya'll's schedule is a gauntlet, along with every other team in the SECw
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Defense good enough to keep team in every game? Check.
Bad linebackers, bad defensive line, average DB's, along with bad special teams. But don't let reality get in the way of all that sunshine pumping
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Team is hungry? Bert.
Team was hungry last year, team thinks they're a legit contender this year and is starting to get arrogant. Get ready to get slapped in the face when reality sets in and ya'll realize that it takes more than a bunch of message board shite talk and an arrogant attitude to go 5-3, 6-2, 7-1, 8-0 in the SEC
Posted by smallmouth
Clinton,AR
Member since Aug 2015
109 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:47 pm to
I cant believe what CBB has turned this program into after just two short years. There are no words to describe what a clusterfreek he walked into after the John L year. How many we will win with a schedule like this is a fine line, but for the first time in a long time I feel we can win every game we play this year. I know we wont.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:48 pm to
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I can think of 17 different reasons why he would need 0 stats
Relentlessly bragging about a two touchdown win against LSU's worst team in 15 years when we were playing without Leonard Fournette and coming off of a huge, season ending loss to Bama, which just so happened to be one of ya'll's two wins in the SEC in 16 tries?

In case you're wondering, that's a sign that you're a fan of a shitty team
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:51 pm to
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A QB who is mediocre at best? Check


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AthlonSports ranked your receivers 11th out of 14 in the SEC, and that's including ya'll's excellent TE. Your WR's are God awful


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Don't Arkansas fans claim that the week before doesn't have any bearing on a team's performance the current week? Ya'll's schedule is a gauntlet, along with every other team in the SECw


All fair points.

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Sure? Not really a big deal but alright


Having one of the best of anything is kind of a big deal. Same with the RB's.

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Bad linebackers, bad defensive line, average DB's, along with bad special teams. But don't let reality get in the way of all that sunshine pumping


They all have something to prove, but the DL is pretty legit.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:54 pm to
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Bad linebackers, bad defensive line, average DB's




DT Taiwan Johnson returns after getting 4.5 sacks last year playing behind Philon

LB Brooks Ellis was 2nd on the team in tackles last year, he's back

CB Jared Collins tied for the SEC lead in pass breakups last year

CB DJ Dean was recently named a top 10 corner in college football by pro football focus

CB Henre Toliver returns after holding Amari Cooper to his lowest output of the season as a true freshman last year

That's not including the newcomers like a 2nd team juco all-american defensive lineman
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:54 pm to
Arkansas has the advantage of running an offense that teams aren't built to stop anymore, but they aren't even very good at it yet. What made Arkansas good last year, 2-6 good was that they had a very good run defense and played very conservatively on offense. Their three best games were against teams that couldn't throw. Bama in the rain, Ole Miss in the rain, and LSU. They're way too one dimensional to actually compete for titles right now.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:08 pm to
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Relentlessly bragging about a two touchdown win against LSU's worst team in 15 years when we were playing without Leonard Fournette and coming off of a huge, season ending loss to Bama


tDecline

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In case you're wondering, that's a sign that you're a fan of a shitty team


A shitty team that the Mighty Superpower LSU tigers struggle with every year. How does it make you feel that you got shutout by a shitty team with 2 wins in 16 tries?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:11 pm to
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quote:
5th year senior QB with 2 seasons of starting experience under his belt? Check.
A QB who is mediocre at best? Check


That makes him light years ahead of anything you have.
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