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Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:32 am to silverstreak02
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Welcome to ACC football
While ACC football sucks outside of two/three teams, perception is reality. For many people, ACC= basketball while SEC= football. It's just the way it is.
Now, if the SEC gets 4/5 teams in the tourney and they all start wrecking shite, then maybe that perception will slowly be augmented.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:34 am to RoyalAir
That's my point. The SEC in hoops is known by outsiders as Kentucky and everyone else. When Kentucky is down, the entire league gets a bad rap, even when it's not justified.
The same argument can be said about any league in any sport where they aren't the traditional power. It might surprise folks, but they play basketball outside of Lawrence, Kansas, Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, and Lexington, Kentucky.
The same argument can be said about any league in any sport where they aren't the traditional power. It might surprise folks, but they play basketball outside of Lawrence, Kansas, Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, and Lexington, Kentucky.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:36 am to GetCocky11
Tell Frank to schedule better OOC competition so the conference as a whole can get recognized. Needs to stop his bitching.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:43 am to CNB
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If we were lucky to gain the addition of Mizzou basketball, why couldn't y'all hire a better coach?
Old people who are nostalgic are stupid. Old donors said "Gregg Marshall....or you are hiring Kim Anderson"
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:02 am to CNB
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If we were lucky to gain the addition of Mizzou basketball, why couldn't y'all hire a better coach?
Because our old AD sucked and the donors thought Kim Anderson was a good idea.
The donors liked him because he was a long assistant under Norm Stewart and a former player/alum. I guess they also liked him because he had success at the division 2 level(lol).
The bottom line is that he's clearly in way over his head. He's a joke at the D-1 level.
Kim Anderson set a record for longest losing streak in Mizzou basketball history...TWICE!
12 game losing streak(2015)
13 game losing streak(2015)
2016?
He's well on his way to setting a new record this season.
I'm not 100% on this but I'm pretty sure he would also be setting a record for having back to back seasons of finishing last in the conference. I don't think Mizzou has ever done that before. If they did, it would have been well over 50 or 60 years ago.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 10:08 am
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:06 am to GetCocky11
I'm not sure I completely agree about the lack of Top25 rankings however I certainly agree with Martin that the SEC has a depth of quality teams this year even if they may be lacking in terms of a few truly elite ones.
The thing though is that the SEC needs to keep winning and showing well in bigger OOC games over a few years span to garner more respect.
Right or wrong, people around the country form opinions about conference strength over results from multiple seasons.
It's a start though that the league has certainly increased attention in the number of high profile coaches hired the past couple of years.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:16 am to GetCocky11
I think it is underated. Not saying lsu should be ranked of course but look at what tamu, bama and UK has done ooc. We aren't great we have 2 god awful teams and a pretty bad team. (Mizzou,au,msu). But the top 6/7 teams aren't bad imo.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:32 am to GetCocky11
He's right to an extent. I think there are so many pre-conceived notions about different conferences, and it's bullshite. Besides Auburn and Mizzou, there is nowhere in the SEC that is a gimme on the road. That doesn't mean every team is average, it means there is a lot of parody and quality teams. Every year the SEC has multiple teams make the Sweet 16, so why does it still get hated on?
The media overhypes conferences like the Big 12. So they can have teams that have 6 losses but still be top 25 because they lost to other "quality" opponents.
The media overhypes conferences like the Big 12. So they can have teams that have 6 losses but still be top 25 because they lost to other "quality" opponents.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:39 am to WorkinDawg
"10 years of horrible basketball"
FIFY
SEC hasn't been horrible at all except for about the 10 years of so. The league was pretty damn stout throughout much of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. The league as a whole is much improved this year.
FIFY
SEC hasn't been horrible at all except for about the 10 years of so. The league was pretty damn stout throughout much of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. The league as a whole is much improved this year.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:40 am to SCgamecock2988
quote:Agreed
We should probably be ranked but LSU at 8 losses had no business being ranked going into our game last night.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:41 am to GetCocky11
IF LSU doesn't lose a bunch of crap games early and if USC didn't have the softest schedule ever they would both be ranked. Its not anti SEC bias. It is just how it played out.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:46 am to Farmer1906
you mad?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:52 am to GetCocky11
Another issue is that the team with the most "marquee" wins (aka Top 25) is Alabama, who has been so Jeckyl and Hyde that they've squandered what is a pretty good record against top competition (4-2 vs Top 25) by going 10-8 against everyone else.
Of the top teams, A&M and Kentucky have winning records against ranked opponents (3-1 and 2-1, respectively) but A&M has been on a slide. South Carolina only has 1 ranked game (and won), but that's a tiny sliver of their overall schedule, comparatively.
Of the top teams, A&M and Kentucky have winning records against ranked opponents (3-1 and 2-1, respectively) but A&M has been on a slide. South Carolina only has 1 ranked game (and won), but that's a tiny sliver of their overall schedule, comparatively.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 11:49 am to RoyalAir
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Now, if the SEC gets 4/5 teams in the tourney and they all start wrecking shite, then maybe that perception will slowly be augmented.
That could happen.
Remember how everyone kept saying what a down year it was in SEC football this past year ... but they stfu once the bowls got underway and the SEC dominated overall.
Of course there were the excuse makers who said we got favorable match-ups.
The SEC will not dominate in March, but we'll surprise some people in the post season IMHO.
I think six teams make the dance and we end up above .500 by the time all is said and done as a conference.
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