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re: Fournette vs. Chubb

Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:03 pm to
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WG_Dawg
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there isn't any career metric which LF is better than NC, aside from KO returns which NC doesn't do. You are using 2 games from LF to "put this to rest", which is about the most unbelievably fricking retarded argument I've ever heard.

I like LSU fans, I really do IRL, but the last 12 months have really made me hate the absolute shite out of all of you. 95% of you suck so, so bad.


They're both a grand total of 2 (and 3 in NC's case) games into their 2nd year of their collegiate careers. Talking about their "career metrics," is like talking about an intern's work history on their resume.

The point is that Chubb's a great back. Fournette is a notch above. It doesn't take "career metrics," in order to establish a hierarchy and I think you're an intelligent person. Definitely intelligent enough to agree with me on that.

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the last 12 months have really made me hate the absolute shite out of all of you. 95% of you suck so, so bad.


Your fanbase's collective, constant bloviating and puffing out your chest like an 18 year old after he wore his first extra small Under Armour shirt, brand new lifting gloves to the gym after popping his first creatine tablet over the last year or so re: Chubb has been just as insufferable for LSU Fans who knew what Fournette would eventually become.

The lack of context and perspective here on your part is humorous. You need to look in the mirror at your own fanbase before you talk about how much this topic makes you hate ours. You guys were doing it way before we were, baw.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64496 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:03 pm to
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there isn't any career metric which LF is better than NC, aside from KO returns which NC doesn't do. You are using 2 games from LF to "put this to rest", which is about the most unbelievably fricking retarded argument I've ever heard.

will wait until the end of the season to judge, but if Fournette put up considerably better numbers this year, what will your opinion be? will you admit he's better or will you try to use last year as a reason chubb is better? serious question
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:07 pm to
I don't think WG Dawg will give up on this one.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:08 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:11 pm to
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will wait until the end of the season to judge,


well, after last season NC was far, and I mean FAR, better in pretty much every conceivable category. Yet LSU fans only pointed to the intangible "potential", along with other bullshite like miles playcalling and whatnot. So, basically I and other folks have learned that LSU fans will bend the argument any which way they can to make it look better for LF.

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if Fournette put up considerably better numbers this year, what will your opinion be?


it would be that LF is as good or better than NC. Idk why yall think I'm such a homer, I'm not. I'm a realist. I base my opinions on stats, data, and what I can actaully see. Last year NC was so, so, soooooo unblieveably better than LF. It wasn't even remotely close. Yet LSU fans called UGA fans homers for not seeing lf's "potential". This whole entire time, every UGA fan on here has acknowledged that LF pretty much has a higher ceiling, he just hasn't reached it yet.

Regarding you rquestion above, if LF contitnues to ball out as he has so far, I have no problem whatsoever in saying that he's had the better year. Why would I try to lie about facts?

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will you admit he's better


Well, in 2014 he was undeniably not better. If he keeps up his pace (keep in mind, we're not even talking about hwat chubb might do this year) sure I'm perfectly rationaly enough to admit someone is better

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or will you try to use last year as a reason chubb is better?


this is such a silly question. Lf has played 2 games in '15. Both players played 13 games in 14 and we saw for damn sure who was better. I can't rightly say who is better 3 months from now because that's a lot of data we haven't seen yet.


Bottom line...LSu fans are ridiculously insecure and need constant validation that their highly rated prospect is actually good. Nobody has said LF isnt' good; everyone knows he IS really good and has unlimited potential. It just so happens there's another guy that has done better than he has the last 13 months. Sorry I'm not sorry.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:13 pm to
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WG_Dawg



The level of anger you have reached on this topic is not healthy. Re-evaluate your life man.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:13 pm to
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Bottom line...LSu fans are ridiculously insecure and need constant validation that their highly rated prospect is actually good.


You sound pretty perturbed. You should take a couple of deep breaths and just embrace the Buga.

BTW, I see lots of LF v Chubb threads started by UGA fans on here.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:15 pm to
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.LSu fans are ridiculously insecure and need constant validation that their highly rated prospect is actually good.


Kids, this is what we call projection
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:17 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:16 pm to
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hey're both a grand total of 2 (and 3 in NC's case) games into their 2nd year of their collegiate careers


So you value 2 games into year 2 over 12 games of year 1 lol

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Talking about their "career metrics," is like talking about an intern's work history on their resume.


Idk any 2 year interns. And it's funny that LSU fans now want to compldtely disregard both players' freshman years. Gee, wonder why?

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The point is that Chubb's a great back. Fournette is a notch above


THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING that would indicate lf is better than chubb. Seriously, not a single thing, aside from tray matthew's attempting to trampoline helmet tackle lf leading to an espn highlight. Ya know what really matters? data. numbers. things we can actaully look at rather than "potential". And lf isn't close to chhubb.


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The lack of context and perspective here on your part is humorous. You need to look in the mirror at your own fanbase before you talk about how much this topic makes you hate ours. You guys were doing it way before we wer



cjubbb wasn't even the highest ranked RB in UGA's draft class that year. Chubb was a workmanlike, small town kid who came in and went to work, was 3rd string starting his freshman steason, and didn't start until game like 5. whereas lf was the #1 overall player and did the fricking heisman pose aginst lt. Don't even try to compare our fanmbases expectation for nc to yours for lf.

This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:18 pm to
Wow
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28104 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:23 pm to
Melt all you want. No one on here cares about you second tier RB.


And neither will the Heisman voters.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9745 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:23 pm to
As an unbiased observer I really can't say one guy is better than the other at this point. At the end of the season I still might not be able to declare either as the better back. I think LSU is more dependent on LF than UGA is on NC. If they both went out for the season it would hurt Lsu more due to style of play and the fact I believe UGA has better back ups, I AM NOT SAYING THAT LSU DOESN'T HAVE GOOD BACK UPS.

Imo LF will end up with better stats this year due to Lsu ridding him hard and he'll get 25 carries a game, as he should. Be is a man child BEAST.

Too close to declare At this point.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:24 pm to
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Melt all you want


people like you are why good posters don't post. Having actual discussions backed up by reasons more in depth that "u mad?" isn't melting.

You idiot.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:25 pm to


I think it would be cool if lsu and uga met in the seccg. what a matchup! I could tell my grandchildren about this except their all girls.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26173 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:35 pm to
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people like you are why good posters don't post. Having actual discussions backed up by reasons more in depth that "u mad?" isn't melting.



Definitely agree here. Illustrating a point with more than just a hand signal equates to a melt. Jesus...
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28104 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:41 pm to
It's the SEC rant. It's a pile of lowbrow shite if you haven't noticed. Most threads are passive aggressive spinning or trolling other fanbases.

The reality is that many of us are CPAs, lawyers, physicians, or college kids of womanlike stature and athleticism. The OT admission standards do not apply to this board. Many of us stand under 6 ft tall, could scarcely break 6 on the 40, can't bench our body weight, and are older than the players that are discussed on this forum. We live vicariously through players with whom we have no real association but project ourselves onto them due to the tribalistic nature of Man. And it's fun as shite. It's a hobby.

You need to realize that the relative respect the player on your favorite team garners from a bunch of other dorks on the internet means very little.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:43 pm to
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It's the SEC rant. It's a pile of lowbrow shite if you haven't noticed. Most threads are passive aggressive spinning or trolling other fanbases.

The reality is that many of us are CPAs, lawyers, physicians, or college kids of womanlike stature and athleticism. The OT admission standards do not apply to this board. Many of us stand under 6 ft tall, could scarcely break 6 on the 40, can't bench our body weight, and are older than the players that are discussed on this forum. We live vicariously through players with whom we have no real association but project ourselves onto them due to the tribalistic nature of Man. And it's fun as shite. It's a hobby.

You need to realize that the relative respect the player on your favorite team garners from a bunch of other dorks on the internet means very little.




eta. and to use the lack of respect given to said player in debate with other members of a fanbase as the reason you hate "95%" of those associated is prima facie evidence that you take this too seriously. Step back and have perspective is all I'm saying. Too many times it takes people posting a tragic occurrence before we all say, "it really puts things in perspective, it's just a game". Why not have that attitude all the time? Debate is one thing, but getting really worked up to the point of "hate" is another.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:49 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:49 pm to
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t's the SEC rant. It's a pile of lowbrow shite


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Member since Dec 2014


yep, because of ****s like you.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86439 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:50 pm to
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Step back and have perspective is all I'm saying.



coming from an LSu fan crowning LF as the heisman winner and all time great after 2 games!!!

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28104 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:52 pm to
I rarely post on here. Hope you still have a good rest of your day in spite of this thread.
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
16903 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:52 pm to
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coming from an LSu fan crowning LF as the heisman winner and all time great after 2 games!!!


Notwithstanding that I never said this, nor have I even made a post or series of posts pertaining to the Chubb Fournette debate, the point of my post was obviously completely lost on you.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 4:54 pm
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