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re: Fournette or Watson for Heismen

Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:30 pm to
"How you finish" as in how you do in the final half year or month. Fournette wasn't close to heisman caliber after those first 5 games.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:53 pm to
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"How you finish" as in how you do in the final half year or month. Fournette wasn't close to heisman caliber after those first 5 games.


SO the fact that Henry played AU and UF late in the year and LF7 played them earlier and literally had the same stats is oblivious to you....

Like I said, the arguments made are not grounded in reality.

Edit: I shouldn't say the stats where the same because LF7 clearly destroyed AU and sat out the final quarter.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:55 pm to
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AllFournetteDoesIsRustleGumps



I like Leonard Fournette and think he should've finished higher in the Heisman voting.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Apparently you weren't paying attention. It was a snub to not even get invited. You all know it. Just admit it and move on



I think he should've placed higher. The invitation system works on the votes. It wasn't a snub, he didn't get the votes. I thought he should have, but he didn't.

Also that last game with the 212 yards was his bowl game. That came after Heisman voting. If you include his last 4 before the Heisman voting you include the game against Alabama, which makes it look a little uglier.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Also that last game with the 212 yards was his bowl game. That came after Heisman voting. If you include his last 4 before the Heisman voting you include the game against Alabama, which makes it look a little uglier.


True, but in that time frame, Henry played AU and UF where he got most of his yards in said time frame.

LF7 also got most of his yards early in the year from those same said teams.

It somehow was a Heisman moment for Henry, but discounted for LF7 because it was "early"

Edit: I am not saying LF7 should have won it. I don't think he had a season that warranted a Heisman win, only that it should have been invited.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32878 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:46 pm to
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t that Henry played AU and UF late in the year and LF7 played them earlier and literally had the same stats is oblivious to you....

Like I said, the arguments made are not grounded in reality.

Edit: I shouldn't say the stats where the same because LF7 clearly destroyed AU and sat out the final quarter.



"What have you done lately" has always impacted subjective voting. That is the reality relevent to this discussion. Voters aren't impressed with a limp to the finish line.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42636 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:08 pm to
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McCaffrey.


Probably. I'd take both Fournette and Watson over him though.
Posted by DahlonegaDawg
The N. GA. Mountains
Member since Oct 2015
1158 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:12 pm to
Watson is the clear favorite IMO, of course you have to watch out for McCaffery also. Pro football focus projects Christian to be a better pro than LF interesting enough, he's #1 on their board with Garrett at #2.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:22 pm to
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The players that were invited ahead of him deserved to be there and any of the three had a legitimate case to win.


Still should've got an invite. 5 were invited the year before.


Eat a dick
Posted by PrairievilleTiger
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2016
943 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:24 pm to
You hate LSU so much you can't be honest. Watson is not way better then Fournette. If you had Fournette you would not be saying Watson is way better. You would be jocking him like you do every other bama player. Fournette and Watson are about even to me.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14561 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:25 pm to
Watson
McCaffery


Fournette
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:28 pm to
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Pro football focus projects Christian to be a better pro than LF interesting enough, he's #1 on their board with Garrett at #2.


Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:31 pm to
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Possibly the biggest snub in Heisman history.



It wasn't a snub. He wasn't deserving. Nobody gives a shite what he does against the 128th, 127th, 109th rushing defenses plus WKU and Syracuse.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:38 pm to
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It wasn't a snub. He wasn't deserving. Nobody gives a shite what he does against the 128th, 127th, 109th rushing defenses plus WKU and Syracuse.


LF7 and Henry basically averaged the ypc in SEC play. But yea, LF7 only got yards vs scrubs.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:40 pm to
Sorry booger wasn't deserving of even a Heisman invite.
Posted by PrairievilleTiger
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2016
943 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:41 pm to
Jay or you an LSU fan cause you hate on LSU every post. You can't be a true fan.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:41 pm to
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Sorry booger wasn't deserving of even a Heisman invite


Based on what? Side conversation while spooning with your sister?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Jay or you an LSU fan cause you hate on LSU every post. You can't be a true fan.


Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:44 pm to
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I like Scarbrough's chances to be honest.




Of course you do
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:46 pm to
Based on he didn't get nearly enough votes for an invite.
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