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Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:31 pm to Crompdaddy8
"It is four football players, one of whom had a girlfriend — girlfriend victim,” he explained. “The four players, that girl were out, they were drinking.”“They went back, boyfriend, Vandy football player, had sex with his girlfriend and then allowed his three drunk teammates with him to also have sex with his girlfriend — and she obviously did not want that to be the case.”
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:38 pm to Crompdaddy8
Where is that quote from?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:38 pm to Southern Living
Danny Ainge radio show
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:40 pm to Crompdaddy8
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How did she become unconscious?
They wouldn't say. They also wouldn't say who else might be charged or even indicate in one direction or the other. They did say the whole thing was revealed by happenstance -- one person was reviewing dorm video due to an unrelated event and what they saw the players doing in the hallway was enough for them alert VPD. I assume that person would've been a Vandy official associated with security or even VPD since they were reviewing dorm tape to begin with.
IIRC, the two counts of sexual battery come from what was recorded in the hallway by the security cams but I could be wrong about that.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:41 pm to Crompdaddy8
Wow. I hope they get what's coming to them.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:43 pm to Prof
Maybe a dumb question, but what is the difference between sexual battery and aggravated rape? They are charged with both, right?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:45 pm to Crompdaddy8
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Danny Ainge radio show
You mean Eric and there was another website (Gawker or some place like that) that said they'd been given the same info. Today MPD spokesman was asked about it and described her as good friends with one of them.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:47 pm to Crompdaddy8
Brian Banks story
If it proves to be a clear-cut rape case then I have no sympathy for them but if they were all drunk/high/passsed out or whatever she kind of put herself in that position too. I'd say 90% of all sexual encounters in college involves alcohol. Sometimes women scream rape as a weapon.
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In the summer of 2002, Brian Banks was arrested and charged after classmate Wanetta Gibson said that he dragged her into a stairway at Polytechnic High School (Poly) and raped her. Faced with a possible 41 years to life sentence, he accepted a plea deal that included five years in prison, five years of probation, and registering as a sex offender. Wanetta Gibson and her mother Wanda Rhodes sued the Long Beach Unified School District, claiming the Poly campus was not a safe environment, and won a $1.5 million settlement.[13][14]In March 2011, Gibson contacted Banks on Facebook, met with him, and admitted that she had fabricated the story. Banks secretly recorded Gibson's confession, but she refused to tell prosecutors that she had lied so she wouldn't have to return the money she and her family had won in court. Nevertheless, with Gibson's taped admission and help from California Innocence Project attorneys, Los Angeles County prosecutors overturned Banks's conviction on May 24, 2012.[14]
On April 12, 2013, the Long Beach Unified School District announced it was suing Wanetta Gibson for $2 million in an effort to recoup the $1.5 million she received, along with attorney's fees and punitive damages.[15] On June 14, 2013, the school district won a $2.6 million judgment against Gibson, which includes the $750,000 settlement initially paid to her along with attorney's fees, interest, and $1 million in punitive damages.
If it proves to be a clear-cut rape case then I have no sympathy for them but if they were all drunk/high/passsed out or whatever she kind of put herself in that position too. I'd say 90% of all sexual encounters in college involves alcohol. Sometimes women scream rape as a weapon.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:00 pm to Southern Living
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Maybe a dumb question, but what is the difference between sexual battery and aggravated rape? They are charged with both, right?
Yes they're charged with both. Sexual battery is a catch all for unwanted sexual contact when certain elements are met. It can be anything from compelling another person who is unable to consent to perform an act to a number of different things. With so little out there it's hard to even speculate what specifically they did but the fact that she was unconscious/unable to consent to any contact would qualify unwanted sexual contact as sexual battery.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:02 pm to Prof
Gotcha. 
Again, thanks for the explanation.
Again, thanks for the explanation.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:06 pm to Prof
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They wouldn't say. They also wouldn't say who else might be charged or even indicate in one direction or the other. They did say the whole thing was revealed by happenstance -- one person was reviewing dorm video due to an unrelated event and what they saw the players doing in the hallway was enough for them alert VPD. I assume that person would've been a Vandy official associated with security or even VPD since they were reviewing dorm tape to begin with.
IIRC, the two counts of sexual battery come from what was recorded in the hallway by the security cams but I could be wrong about that.
Why wouldn't they say? Was she like totally unconscious or drunk/semi-unconscious? If a man and woman get equally drunk, and have sex, who raped who? If the man is not drunk as the woman, it's rape obviously. BUT if both parties are equally intoxicated, is it a rape?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:07 pm to Southern Living
No problem SL. It's a disturbing case all the way around and I wonder what in the world that one official saw on the hallway dorm tape that sent them directly to VPD.
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:12 pm to Crompdaddy8
Do you think that the fact that the investigation is still ongoing may have something to do with it, dumbass.
If a woman is unconscious and 4 guys have sex with her, it is fricking gang rape you piece of shite. You really should just stop. You are showing us all how trashy you are. I hope you don't ever have a daughter. You will probably pimp her out.
If a woman is unconscious and 4 guys have sex with her, it is fricking gang rape you piece of shite. You really should just stop. You are showing us all how trashy you are. I hope you don't ever have a daughter. You will probably pimp her out.
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:12 pm to Crompdaddy8
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If it proves to be a clear-cut rape case then I have no sympathy for them but if they were all drunk/high/passsed out or whatever she kind of put herself in that position too. I'd say 90% of all sexual encounters in college involves alcohol. Sometimes women scream rape as a weapon.
The cases of women who use it as a weapon are extremely rare. The Grand Jury wouldn't have returned this indictment if they weren't very sure. The girl was passed out, unconscious. There is no way she could have consented. I don't care of they were drunk of not - an unconscious woman cannot have consensual sex.
Throw the book at 'em.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:14 pm to Prof
That's what I'm wondering. He must have saw something very disturbing.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:16 pm to Crompdaddy8
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How did she become unconscious?
The MPD representative said he couldn't comment on that. He was asked if it was alcohol, or if she was given something, and he said he couldn't comment. Probably because the investigation is still going on, and he also didn't want to give out too many details out of respect for the victim. He said the details were too graphic.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:17 pm to Southern Living
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the fact that the investigation is still ongoing
they aren't proven guilty yet. but as soon as the word RAPE is used people go ape-shite without hearing all the facts.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:19 pm to Crompdaddy8
Just stop
You basically said that an unconscious chick deserves to be raped. I hope you get raped with a plunger.
You basically said that an unconscious chick deserves to be raped. I hope you get raped with a plunger.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:20 pm to Southern Living
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You basically said that an unconscious chick deserves to be raped.
No I did not.
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