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re: Former UF coach Meyer speaks about AH

Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44373 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:14 pm to
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Hernandez was already rotten by college. Sure Meyer could have done more but once people get to college they're already set in their ways.



That's kind of why he at least deserves to be connected with AH in some respects. Coaches recruit these kids for years. They get to know them and their families. Urban knew AH was a worthless thug when he accepted his signed LOI. He knew he was a worthless thug when he arrived on campus. He knew he was a worthless thug when he left for the NFL. Is he partly to blame for anything AH has done? Nope. His hands aren't completely clean either though. He enabled AH for several years by never making him subject to discipline or holding him accountable for anything he did.
Posted by SECFan413
Cookeville,TN
Member since Jan 2009
966 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:17 pm to
Hernandez has spent as much time with Belichek as he did with Meyer. Hernandez is only 23, not 33. Anybody who has not improved themselves from 23 to 33 is either a loser at life or has some kind of medical condition.

This blaming Meyer garbage is asinine, and it is just a way for people to find a reason to dog on Meyer.

If Meyer wants to feel a sense of disappointment for not doing more for Hernandez, that is for him to decide - not the general public. Bill Parcels always said his biggest failure as a coach was not doing more for LT, you would hope that Meyer and Belichek would feel similar feelings when the think back on their time with Hernandez, but we shouldn't tear into them if they don't.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Urban knew AH was a worthless thug when he accepted his signed LOI. He knew he was a worthless thug when he arrived on campus. He knew he was a worthless thug when he left for the NFL. Is he partly to blame for anything AH has done? Nope. His hands aren't completely clean either though.


That's all true. I think Meyer has proven time and again he only cares about winning.

quote:

He enabled AH for several years by never making him subject to discipline or holding him accountable for anything he did.

Unfortunately I'm not sure AH would have been affected by a suspension. Most kids by college are unaffected. They don't learn. They don't really change their character.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:19 pm to
Sociopath is gonna sociopath.

However, Urbz had a team of felons. He definitely could've done more to give him consequences.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

"Blaming UF or me is wrong"

Hernandez is a grown man. He can choose to good or bad. He made his choice, but....
quote:

“I just received an email from a friend where there is an accusation of multiple failed drug tests by Hernandez covered up by University of Florida or the coaching staff.

well, okay then.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:26 pm to
I wonder how Urbs' heart condition is coming along? Getting those kinda emails would induce heart palpitations in me.
Posted by DocEllis
Member since Jun 2013
340 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:28 pm to
Trash.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:30 pm to
I think Urban has been saying stuff that really isn't true for so long he no longer winces when he lies.
Posted by NutHanger Farm
Member since Jun 2013
200 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 12:31 pm to
It all depends what he knew. If he knew he is in trouble. Something tells me when police came knocking 9 days later and he invoked right to counsel - Meyer and the school were in play.
Posted by mockabee
Member since Aug 2010
1199 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:07 pm to
So you CANNOT blame a coach, to whatever extent, when a player breaks bad, but when the player becomes a winning NFL player, citizen, father, man, etc., he CAN accept credit?
Posted by Scatmanjohn12
Grand Prairie, Louisiana
Member since Feb 2013
1090 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:21 pm to
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Urbs is just as much of a tPOS as Hernandez.


How? Meyer didn't murk anybody.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:25 pm to
"Come play for me, and most likely, you'll stay out of jail. God Bless."
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:34 pm to
Blaming UM for what happened after he left UF is wrong, but this episode, Urbans actions and the information that continues to come out on Urban shows what a worthless POS he is.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:39 pm to
On the face of it, blaming Urban for this is wrong...but he damn sure coattails on Tim Tebow, and he had even less to do with Tebow's character success than with Hernandez' character failure.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 1:58 pm to
lol at all these articles saying Meyer and the Patriots need to comment

No they don't
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 2:13 pm to
No real love lost on Meyer...but some of you morons would rather believe internet rumors and message board keyboard jockeys than think for yourselves.

Again...the media is negative and its because we are in a negative society these days and bad news sells soap. Sports reporting used to be about the games and players...now any chance at dirty laundry is jumped at...facts be damned.

Our problem with athletes is a society thing, we are less of a close family society and its all about ME. We are going to implode college sports and we have only ourselves to blame.

No school can follow atheletes around the clock and watch them. Does/did UF punish student athletes just like other schools when violations were found? Of course. The main culprit in the downhill spiral of arrests in college sports is because the NCAA in its infinite wisdom did away with players dormitories....that was the best way for coaches to interact with players when they werent practicing. The smaller schools didnt like it cause they couldnt afford dorms for players on full rides. It was one of the worse moves by the NCAA.
Posted by DocEllis
Member since Jun 2013
340 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 2:15 pm to
tldr. Meyer is trash.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33504 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 3:21 pm to
Anyone bitching about Urban letting Hernandez on Florida's campus probably didn't even look to see of their school offered him
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 4:01 pm to
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Anyone bitching about Urban letting Hernandez on Florida's campus probably didn't even look to see of their school offered him


Get comfortable making justifications for old Urban. It's the price you pay for his success.

(and yes - I do the same thing. Fortunately, when I sold my soul, it came with crystals.) :)
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/6/13 at 4:52 pm to
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A court analysis of Florida football under Urban Meyer. 121 players on the 2008 title team. 41 have been arrested: LINK
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