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re: Former LSU safety Eric Reid joins Kaepernick protest
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:17 am to RD Dawg
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:17 am to RD Dawg
So basically you're comparing sitting through the national anthem to picketing at dead soldiers funerals?
Are we not allowed to take things case by case? Transitive properties is not something that should be applied in this scenario. That's ridiculous.
Are we not allowed to take things case by case? Transitive properties is not something that should be applied in this scenario. That's ridiculous.
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:17 am to RD Dawg
I have far more of an issue with the idiocy after.
He says he wants to unite, but wears socks depicting cops as pigs. That is just immature and does nothing for any cause.
He talks about oppression in the US, doesn't like what the flag represents, yet wears a Castro shirt in his post game interview.
How can someone be that out of touch?
He says he wants to unite, but wears socks depicting cops as pigs. That is just immature and does nothing for any cause.
He talks about oppression in the US, doesn't like what the flag represents, yet wears a Castro shirt in his post game interview.
How can someone be that out of touch?
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:19 am to RD Dawg
I find it quite amusing that several rich black guys are protesting the country where the environment exists for them to succeed and amass the wealth that they have. It is actually quite ridiculous. No where on the face of the earth, could either of them have achieved so much. They are the most non-oppressed oppressed people in the history of mankind. What a joke....
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:19 am to bamasgot13
I agree with all of that and am sure Reid would as well.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:20 am to cas4t
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faux patriotism is hysterical. Folks consistently trash America, its president, the nominees, foreign affairs, government, etc
The president is trashed, for his socialist, communist and borderline criminal behavior. The Presidency is not. Big difference.
Nominees are trashed for their ineptness and perceived criminality.
Foreign affairs are trashed because of the harmful nature when not good for the U.S..
Gov't is trashed, when it steers from Constitutional principles.
None of the above are anything like ill informed, ignorant people, latching onto a FALSE narrative and whose agendas are to continue to drive a racial wedge and take no part in discussing the problem. They only want to blame one race for problems. They're trashy and dishonor ALL people who have served this country honorably.
Having said that. I hope any others that feel that way continue to speak out and sit down. It's their right. And it would be great for folks to know where not to spend their dollars if they disagree.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:21 am to brett408
They are clearly not protesting over wealth equality so your point is irrelevant. It's about BLM. Plain and simple. I don't see how this is so hard to grasp.
That's like telling your wife she should be ok with you berating her every night because you're the one who brings home the bacon.
That's like telling your wife she should be ok with you berating her every night because you're the one who brings home the bacon.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:23 am to cas4t
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So basically you're comparing sitting through the national anthem to picketing at dead soldiers funerals?
They are both designed to piss people off.
That's what I disagree with the most. This protest is divisive. These guys have the means to make their points much better and to actually do something constructive.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:23 am to cas4t
Cas4t, you and this fauxx patriotism crap is nonsense. The flag stands for the ideals of a free and just society. Where we have disagreements are with the arse clowns that are currently running it. They will come and go, but the ideals are pure and just and that is what the flag and the national anthem represent. It doesn't matter if someone trashes Obama, Hillary, Trump, or whomever. They are just people that come and go through time, but America will still be there
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:24 am to cas4t
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If they were protesting over, say, Hillary becoming president, they'd be praised. Faux patriotism.
What a retarded thing to say.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
It is their right because of that flag, that anthem, and this oppressive country. This is just more race baiting bullshite and the fricking left media will shove it down our throat. There are ways to do this without the horseshite they're doing.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:26 am to bamasgot13
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The BLM leadership needs to be adamantly against violence as a means of protest.
They need to let the locals of whatever community they go to handle their own communities. I live in the Baton Rouge area and I can tell you the police had very little problems with he locals that were protesting after the Alton Sterling shooting. The majority of people that they arrested and who were violent were out of state people coming in and leaching off of our problems to push their agenda. I'm all for protesting if you have a righteous call that is your right but let the people that know the community do it. Don't come leach off of my people and let us handle ourselves.Yes Baton Rouge people are my people no matter race color or religion. I relate more to other races from my area than other white people from other areas so I consider them all my people.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:26 am to cas4t
Why don't they protest blacks killing blacks. The police have shot criminals. BLM is truly a bunch of horse shite. They whole movement was created out of the lies around the Michael Brown deal. He was a thug POS and rightfully got shot for attacking a police officer.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:27 am to Alahunter
My point is that folks are upset over the CAUSE of the protest, of which they disagree with. BLM. Many, anyways. Had they sat through the national anthem in protest of Hillary being elected, they'd be praised. Many of the people riled up don't believe in the BLM message in the first place, and are turning it into something much more.
This is something they should probably have realized and conveyed the message better. Because it certainly comes across as anti American. But in reality they are simply using a platform to send out a message that obviously isn't going to be uniformly accepted.
Much like BLM in general, the issue doesn't seem to be the message, but more of the delivery.
This is something they should probably have realized and conveyed the message better. Because it certainly comes across as anti American. But in reality they are simply using a platform to send out a message that obviously isn't going to be uniformly accepted.
Much like BLM in general, the issue doesn't seem to be the message, but more of the delivery.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:27 am to cas4t
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So basically you're comparing sitting through the national anthem to picketing at dead soldiers funerals
So now we're quantifying what were protesting?
You orignally stated it was his "right" to protest in a free country.
So now that doesn't matter?Its not about protesting but the particular cause you're protesting,correct?
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:28 am to cas4t
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Had they sat through the national anthem in protest of Hillary being elected, they'd be killed by the Clinton mafia.
FTFY
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:29 am to cas4t
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I'll say what I said on the TR. faux patriotism is hysterical. Folks consistently trash America, its president, the nominees, foreign affairs, government, etc
But as soon as someone protests in a non violent way mind you, it's this huge deal. I may not agree with Reid in the slightest, but it's his right to call attention to something he feels is important. That's America and that's his right. I've no issue with
I've seen many on the Poli Board criticize the BLM protesters as thugs, linking them to looting, and preaching about the correct way to protest. Their noise on the Kap issue reveals their issues aren't just with the violent fringe, but that they're actually opposed to any sort of protest against institutional and social inequality if it doesn't meet their arbitrary patriotic standards. The thing about protests is they aren't supposed to make you feel comfortable, they're supposed to grab attention, and it's kind of childish to meet every one of these with such 'morally superior' aggression.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:29 am to RD Dawg
Nice straw man you've got right there. Not remotely comparable.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:30 am to Alahunter
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The president is trashed, for his socialist, communist and borderline criminal behavior.
It's sad you actually believe that.
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They're trashy and dishonor ALL people who have served this country honorably.
Several veterans have come out in support of his right to take the stand he is taking, so who are you to project how they should feel? I'm sure there are some that are offended, but not ALL of them as you claim.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:31 am to cas4t
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Nah, by all means, that's within.their right as well. I just find it funny. If they were protesting over, say, Hillary becoming president, they'd be praised. Faux patriotism.
By being disrespectful during the national anthem? No, they wouldn't be praised. The reaction would be just as strong as it is now - maybe more because many on the left would join in the condemnation.
It is indeed their right to protest, but what shouldn't be lost is that the right to free speech does not equal the right to speech without consequences.
In this case, the consequences are at the the very least a world of shait thrown their way. At best, I hope Kaepernick never plays a down. As for me, if I saw his arse injured on a play I'd exercise my free speech right and stand and cheer.
Frick his sorry, worthless arse.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:31 am to geauxtigers33
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They need to let the locals of whatever community they go to handle their own communities.
agree. the professional protesters are not helping their cause b/c they don't know the history, nuances, and nature of the relationships within a community b/c they've not lived it.
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I live in the Baton Rouge area and I can tell you the police had very little problems with he locals that were protesting after the Alton Sterling shooting.
agree with this too.
I'm still waiting - and I may well have missed it - for the national story of police shooting someone who was completely innocent and had zero criminal history. All of the national stories have really involved people who were, for lack of a better word, career criminals. They were known by local police already, so the police were right to be cautious.
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