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Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:01 am to lsupride87
They are obviously utilizing a national stage to protest for a specific purpose. BLM. They are not protesting against the national anthem. It's simply a mechanism to get a point across.
Again, I may not agree with their beliefs or agree with their actions, but let's not make it into something more than what it is. It's a black lives matter protest, plain and simple. Which is their individual belief.
Again, I may not agree with their beliefs or agree with their actions, but let's not make it into something more than what it is. It's a black lives matter protest, plain and simple. Which is their individual belief.
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Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:02 am to bamasgot13
First it was Dixie and the Confederate flag.
Now it's the national anthem and the US flag.
As long as they don't protest:
Now it's the national anthem and the US flag.
As long as they don't protest:
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:02 am to LSUMastermind
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yes screw them for protesting in a free country
Free speech doesn't mean people have to agree with the speech or actions.
I thought Reid was smarter than this
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:03 am to cas4t
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? That because there are crazies who protest we shouldn't allow anyone to protest? Please elaborate, thanks
Just asking a simple question.Oh BTW,whats your definition of "crazies"?People who wear socks with a cartoon of pigs with a police cap?BLM chanting "pigs in a blanket fry like bacon"?
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:04 am to lsufball19
I don't see how it makes him any less intelligent. He has views as a black man that he finds important. If much rather them protest in this way than be violent TBH.
My biggest issue with Reid is that if he has felt so adamant about this, why haven't we heard more earlier? The actual protest is no big deal to me. But he does come across as a follower.
My biggest issue with Reid is that if he has felt so adamant about this, why haven't we heard more earlier? The actual protest is no big deal to me. But he does come across as a follower.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:04 am to Pinche Cabron
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:05 am to cas4t
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It's a black lives matter protest, plain and simple.
The NFL won't shut this down but they won't allow Dallas Cowboys to wear a decal on their helmets supporting the fallen officers. Where is the injustice for that?
I'm not saying they shouldn't protest but the flag is the wrong thing to protest. The Flag is the symbol that allows them to do that protest without the fear of persecution. They should actually be supporting it.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:06 am to cas4t
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I don't see how it makes him any less intelligent
Because the protest itself is ignorant and baseless.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:06 am to RD Dawg
Your question clearly had implications and I'm curious as to what you meant. The only thing I can draw from it is that folks should not be allowed to protest because of Westboro.
And yes that's crazy as well. Kap should protest in a much more professional way and not encourage violence.
And yes that's crazy as well. Kap should protest in a much more professional way and not encourage violence.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:06 am to lsufball19
In your opinion. It's important to plenty of other people. I agree with you, but the point is that not everyone has the same outlook nor life experiences that lead them to feel a certain way. Just because it's baseless to you and I doesn't make it actually baseless for everyone.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:07 am to geauxtigers33
If I were the Cowboys I'd wear the decals anyways
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:07 am to cas4t
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I'll say what I said on the TR. faux patriotism is hysterical. Folks consistently trash America, its president, the nominees, foreign affairs, government, etc
well, to me there is a difference in trashing the actions of some elected officials (most of which let us down and fail to deliver on promises made, so they've brought that trashing upon themselves in many ways), and trashing a representation of the ideals upon which this country was founded.
Kap is right in some ways about oppression in this country. He's wrong in that the flag represents that.
Oppression doesn't discriminate solely by color. There are women who are oppressed. Oppression strikes on socioeconomic lines. That said, they also live in a country that provided an opportunity for their talent to be rewarded with A) free education, B) enormous income potential, C) a platform from which to share their opinions. That happened regardless of their starting point in life. Hell, we have a president who was born to mixed parents, raised primarily by grandparents, and never really knew his father. That looks like many people's upbringing. It didn't stop him from reaching the highest office. he wasn't oppressed in the sense that he couldn't achieve and overcome any disadvantages he may have faced.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:07 am to hg
LSU fans...
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:09 am to bamasgot13
I think it's pretty obvious this is just a way to publicize BLM. Not necessarily protesting the ideals America was founded upon.
Again, it's just a tool. I don't like it. You don't like it. But don't make it something more than what it is.
Again, it's just a tool. I don't like it. You don't like it. But don't make it something more than what it is.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:10 am to bamasgot13
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bamasgot13
Well said
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:12 am to bamasgot13
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:13 am to bamasgot13
His twitter makes him seem like he takes a reasonable stance on these issues
He's intelligent and seems like a family man. I would love to hear him actually speak on the issue.
smh.
Payton basically said he has a rule against it. I wonder what would happen if someone broke it
He's intelligent and seems like a family man. I would love to hear him actually speak on the issue.
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Kaepernick kneeled next to Nate Boyer, a former Green Beret who went to training camp with the Seahawks last year as a long snapper.
smh.
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In Oakland, Seahawks cornerback Jeremy Lane also sat on the bench behind his standing teammates as the national anthem was performed before Seattle’s game against the Raiders.
Payton basically said he has a rule against it. I wonder what would happen if someone broke it
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:15 am to cas4t
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Your question clearly had implications and I'm curious as to what you meant. The only thing I can draw from it is that folks should not be allowed to protest because of Westboro.
IF he would have been caught protesting in the scenerio that I suggested he would have been terminted immediately.Instead I've seen MULITIPLE talking heads on ESPN defending and excusing his actions.
Never did I say ONE THING about shutting down protest or curbing free speech just that there are consequences for his actions ESPECIALLY when representing your employer and organization.
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:17 am to cas4t
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I think it's pretty obvious this is just a way to publicize BLM.
I think it is a BLM protest as well, but even that movement needs help. They've got valid points, but their message delivery is preventing more broad appeal and understanding of their points.
The BLM leadership needs to be adamantly against violence as a means of protest. They also need to rightfully point out that ALL Black Lives Matter, not just those Black Lives lost at hands of police. We can't have fathers abandoning their children, abandoning the mother(s) of their children and then those people talking about BLM. The lives of the children and mothers matter too. It also matters when a black person dies at the hands of another black person. If we are ever going to fully get the message across that BLM, then it needs to be obvious that BLM at all times - not just when it is a racial talking point.
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