re: Former Alabama player Quinton Dial showing off his patriotic side tonight

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Only shite you read by some reporter making 22k a year

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Yea, frickin poor arse reports never uncover any facts.

Alright - good talk guys, I'm gonna respectfully bow out of this one at this point

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You can argue about whether it is oppression or circumstance (or the origins of it), but many minorities are born into situations that are much, much, much more difficult to break out of into success than non-minorities. That's just fact. And it's incredibly sad to me as someone who got 17 chances to screw up and still have success. A lot of those kids get 1 chance, and that's it. With no support system.

But that's the great question of our time - how to change that. And it's insanely difficult to answer. I wish I knew.

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they don't have a chance because they have no family unit, are poor, and have schools who don't give a shite. that's socioeconomic more than anything. poor people in any country are going to be behind the 8 ball from birth. i don't know what they plan to do legislatively to make black people not poor.

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they don't have a chance because they have no family unit, are poor, and have schools who don't give a shite. that's socioeconomic more than anything

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Agree - but the counterargument would be why that socioeconomic situation exists. However, like you say..........

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i don't know what they plan to do legislatively to make black people not poor.

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..........I don't either.

And it sucks. Because there is nothing worse than a constant cycle of hopelessness. And that's what exists in a lot of places right now (and not just AA, of course).

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You can argue about whether it is oppression or circumstance (or the origins of it), but many minorities are born into situations that are much, much, much more difficult to break out of into success than non-minorities. That's just fact. 

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And you wanna know what makes things worse, you bring this to people's attention and they think you are wining or just complaining for no reason, as if racism is a fantasy that doesn't exist. In the end, we should all be able to come together as one but we shouldn't disrespect someone for protesting something such as this even if we don't agree with how they went along with it.

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When did Americans become so dumb that you have to be all in on one side or another regarding complex situations?

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Exactly, there is rarely compromise anymore. Normally the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

I somewhat agree, it's a good point you make about minorities being born into a tougher situation. But at the same time it sounds like excuses. I haven't screwed up 17 times like you, I haven't had to get a "second chance". I've obeyed the law, and I'm still not as successful as Kap. I've had a good support system, because of my family sticks together and has great values. It sounds like if you change a certain culture, you're on your way to changing the problem. My point is, if obey the law and strive for it, there is no reason anyone in this country can't be successful.

Again, there is no proof that an institution is killing black people. Zero. I can link you where people are hunting police in Dallas and BR.

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I haven't screwed up 17 times like you

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Brother, my "screw ups" consist of not studying hard enough for an A when I got a B or playing video games one night in high school instead of studying for a test, or hanging out with moron friends and ALMOST getting in a bad situation.

I got away with a lot of that. A lot of kids in those homes don't. All it takes is 1 fvck up and they are in the system, they are out on the street, etc. That's my point.

Trust me, by what I'm assuming are the norms of this board my "screw ups" were incredible minor in nature. I just happen to understand how insanely blessed I was to grow up in a home with support, structure and opportunity. Everybody doesn't have that.

I think sometimes people need to sit back and realize how blessed they are, and then realize that maybe not everyone has enjoyed those same blessings. We all love to tell everyone how we made our own lives, but in reality we took advantage of opportunities and capitalized on them. Not everyone gets the same or as many advantages as some of us.

That's all I'm saying.

Well AAs Drop out of school before precentages are taught.

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On average there are 96 African Americans killed by law enforcement annually. While there is over 6,000 African Americans murdered by African Americans. Why aren't you concerned about that? Why aren't you concerned that a police officer is 18.5 more likely to be killed by an African American than kill an African American. Do you think these facts have a direct correlation on how law enforcement approaches African Americans in general and put them on a higher state of alert? If you say otherwise then you have your head stuck in the sand.

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Aww the old bring up black on black crime argument to distract people technique. I see where you going buddy and Im gonna respond as best as I can then Im gonna bow out of this one because I see its gonna turn into a big shitshow soon. However, you do know that most crimes by people are committed in their respective communities
right, well if you live in a high crime area where theres a high conglomerate of one race, would you truly be surprised if there was a high amount crimes committed by that race against the same race. Theres just as much white on white crime as there is black on black crime in this country so I don't understand whats the point of you bringing that up, but you not the first to do it and you will not be the last.