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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Just answer the question. Power programs from most logical perspectives in the SEC would be -LSU, Bama, and UF. Those are definitely elite programs. I can't come up with the other 4 or 5. I'll give you Georgia, but still leaves 3 or 4 more programs to be named.

Now, where could we find a few more??? I don't know....maybe...

THE BCS TOP frickING 10.

You are such a longhorn homo. It is so damn obvious. You are probably Fat Ketch.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Now, where could we find a few more??? I don't know....maybe...

THE BCS TOP frickING 10.

You are such a longhorn homo. It is so damn obvious. You are probably Fat Ketch.



Texas A&M has had the same amount of success as LSU, Bama, Florida and Georgia in the last 10 years?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 6:40 am to
Fire up that burnt-orange Delorian and flip on the flux capacitor.

Gotta get back in time....

Quit living in the PAST T-sip. Your team BLOWS and NOBODY CARES NOW!!!!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79987 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:03 am to
LET THIS THREAD DIE ALREADY! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
Posted by Miskatonic
Member since Nov 2012
1 post
Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:55 am to
No regrets whatsoever - this move was long overdue. The faction that forced the move understood the simple adage: "if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best."

No way to play 'what if we stayed' - the better game to play is 'look closely at Year One and figure out how to get better.'

Nothing you can do about a hurricane - so the FL loss was a good learning experience. Would LA tech gone differently in week 1? Who knows - but we lost at home in our very first everything game. Ok, stuff happens.

The LSU loss is the one that really chaps me - mostly because I'm so old I was in grad school when we played them all the time, and the guy in the office next door was a purple kitty...which gave us a reason to talk smack all year long.

That's the only question mark of the season - we win that game and we go to ATL for a shot at it all. But we didn't, so we're not.

Talking smack to my LSU friends we gave them an early Christmas present, but in reality it was a flat-out team loss: JFF played like a fish, we couldn't tackle, we couldn't kick FG's - and the Mad Hatter's crew curb-stomped us at home.

But - we seemed to have learned from that humiliation and improved as the season unfolded. That's precisely the culture change missing under Fran/Sherman that Kaiser pointed out, and it's wonderful.

So no regrets - we came up short and that's motivation to BTHO LSU - starting on the recruiting trail and culminating in a prime-time, nighttime beatdown in Baton Rouge next year. There won't be enough alcohol in the state of Louisiana to cure that butthurt.
:)

Thanks and Gig 'Em!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61117 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Fire up that burnt-orange Delorian and flip on the flux capacitor.

Gotta get back in time....

Quit living in the PAST T-sip. Your team BLOWS and NOBODY CARES NOW!!!!




We the success of the UT program is far more recent than the success of the A&M program. So A&M has to go WAYYYYYYYYYY in the past to find their success unfortunately they have to go much further back than UT. When did you last win some hardware again? What year was that?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:42 am to
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tiggerthetooth


Just can't bring yourself to let this shitty thread die, can you? Pathetic
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61117 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:44 am to
Ironically, you are helping the cause by even saying that. More aggy logic.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79987 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:47 am to
How do you kill that which has no life?!!
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:59 am to
FOR THE LOVE OF CASTRATI BOS PRIMIGENIUS TAURUS MUTINIUM RIDING


You are the most butthurt, psych ex-girlfiend, ax-murdering, jealous, left-behind, twat I have ever interacted with. That includes Tards and Bible Tards. Good LORD you are pathetic and SCARED AS shite.

It's over.

We left.

We ain't coming back.

Your butthurt longhorns can't come with.

We own the state now.

YOU KNOW IT.

Your boosters are ready to run your 8-win, national-championship-winning coach out of town on a rail. They have admitted it is NOT because of OU, but because of DADDY.

How can you continue to live with yourself? This world is too cruel. You should look beyond.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 3:22 am to
quote:

Texas has given Aggies plenty of reason to be paranoid in the past, esp with their control of the DMN which launched multiple investigations on A&M and of course SMU that derailed both progams along with their control of the NCAA infractions committee for 3 decades through Charles Allan Wright (who stayed involved even after he stepped down as Chair). They just don't have that kind of clout anymore and they especially don't now that we aren't in their conference. Messing with A&M now = messing with the SEC and that is something Texas simply can't do. They will go ahead and treat the rest of the Big 12 like their bitch though. Feel sorry for those schools.


aggressor, the DMN didn't break the SMU story, it was the Dallas Times Herald & Channel 8, primarily Dale Hansen, a Nebraska grad. Regardless, SMU was doing some real dirty shite back then and it needed investigating. Hell, even the Gov of Texas, Clements, was involved in the hush money payouts by allowing them to continue.

As for A&M's problems back then, wasn't Warren Gilbert, the Ag booster who was paying Greg Hill & others to do nothing, the real evil one? Why would you blame Texas for this? Did Texas initiate the media investigation? I don't know, but even if they did, who should get the greater blame, the booster who was committing the crime or UT?

But let's set all of that aside. A&M is in the SEC now. Do you think that violations like the ones above are going to go unnoticed by your SEC sister schools? You might ask Bama fans about Tenn's involvement in ratting them out several years ago. If A&M does anything which merits an investigation today, you won't have to worry about Texas. You'll have 13 other SEC schools calling their favorite media guy wanting negative stories generated. If you haven't noticed, the SEC is more cut-throat when it comes to competing programs not operating on the up & up. Being in the same division as Bama, LSU, Ark, etc. will not let A&M off the hook, whether the problem is real or not.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 6:09 am to
The problems Jackie had and the Warren Gilbert story were both started with the DMN. Were they breaking the rules? Sure, but so was the entire conference. Texas was worse than any of them and always has been but with Charles Allen Wright (a UT prof) running the NCAA enforcement committee for decades and having his fingerprints on every SWC investigation after he officially stepped down as Chair it didn't matter. Texas had a ring of paying players with STATE jobs that made SMU look pedestrian but barely got a hand slap. You remind me of an Obama supporter that truly thinks they "Will have the most open and honest Administration in history."

All schools cheat outside of a few that aren't serious about football, part of it is just what the definition of cheating is. The key is how good they are at twisting the NCAA rules like a pretzel or not leaving a paper trail. The SEC is still pattycake compared to the cutthroat SWC where you had 8 schools in the same state competing for the same recruits. The SEC at this point is a money printing organization and it is no coincidence that while there has been lots of smoke in recent years there has been no fire from the NCAA in recent years. It is bad business. If you think that the other SEC schools have a desire to mess with A&M as the SEC essentially has a Billion dollar investment in the Texas market in the next decade or so you are also naive.

Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:26 pm to
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Texas was worse than any of them and always has been but with Charles Allen Wright (a UT prof) running the NCAA enforcement committee for decades and having his fingerprints on every SWC investigation after he officially stepped down as Chair it didn't matter. Texas had a ring of paying players with STATE jobs that made SMU look pedestrian but barely got a hand slap


Well hell, I'm open. Show me something to back this up. Your saying so doesn't make it real. We know the Warren Gilbert thing happened.

quote:

The SEC at this point is a money printing organization and it is no coincidence that while there has been lots of smoke in recent years there has been no fire from the NCAA in recent years. It is bad business. If you think that the other SEC schools have a desire to mess with A&M as the SEC essentially has a Billion dollar investment in the Texas market in the next decade or so you are also naive.


Please explain. Are you telling me that A&M will have less scrutiny and will be able to hide "cheating" because the SEC doesn't want to damage the potential cash flow back to the conference? Do you think that LSU & Arkie fans are willing to turn a blind eye to potential breakage of rules so that they won't damage the money circuit? And is this the same reason that Auburn has avoided any punishment from the Cam Newton preacher-daddy-money-making-bonanza? So is it kinda like Congress in that you go along to get along?

Maybe I am naive - Am I also naive to believe that A&M has had no problems since the Warren Gilbert deal because they have been operating a clean program and that about 20 years has gone by without any infractions?

Believe me, if Texas had the power that you suggest, the Big Red Auto scandal at OU would have resulted in major sanctions and a lot more players like AD & others would have been immediately ineligible and there would have been some major forfeiture of games. You and I both know that OU was successful in covering up AD's involvement.



Posted by AggieJohn06
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2011
444 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:29 pm to
For the love of tits, this thread is still going?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Big12fan


quote:

666 posts


So apropos. Don't bother posting anymore.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 1:48 pm to
JESUS HYENA PORKING CHRIST!!!



You are so damn obsessed with Daddy.

It's over.

Stop trying to convince us the move to the SEC was bad. We have already moved. We are not coming back. Our national TV exposure has been about 10,000X better than ANYONE in the Big Twatever. The longhorns are stuck because Dodds is an arrogant, stubborn fool who has been blocking any move to either expand the Big Twatever or to get rid of the LHN so you homos can go to the Big East. Longhorns everywhere are shitting their pink Capri pants, and WE TOLD YOU SO.


We won. You lost. Deloss overplayed a pair of threes when we were holding a Royal Flush. We are the number 1 program in Texas now....just like we said we would be. The fun part is that it happened in less than 90 days as opposed to the 2-3 years we thought it would take.

Now, let this thread die already and start following another team.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79987 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

because they have been operating a clean program and that about 20 years has gone by without any infractions?


What R.C. Slocum did in 1996 and Dennis Franchione was "caught" doing in 2007 are not even close to "clean" by any means.
Posted by abcdefgh
Member since Nov 2012
9 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 6:10 pm to
who is "daddy"


a few thoughts from a non biased fan:


Aggy is not one one of the premier programs. They are very hot right now. Lots of program momentum. Great 1st team, great roster and great recruiting classes for the next couple years lined up. You are poised to take back a lot of the ground Texas has.

Texas and the big 12 are reeling, yes. Both need to make changes before they begin to do irreparable damage to themselves.

the SEC has made wise 1st moves and their is still time for texas/Big 12 to make wise reactive moves. there are enough players and teams to keep Texas and the Big 12 fine, hopefully they do for competitive reasons.

I've already praised aggy, but what you claim on here is that you are now an "elite program" and "top 5 job". You are all drinking the cool aid. While I've already admitted you're definitely looking way up in the SEC, nothing has changed in the grand scheme of college football history.

one 11-2 or 10-3 season with a capital one bowl doesn't make you an elite program. maybe in the next ten years you win 2 MNCs with Sumlin, maybe you dont.

either way you cant say you are elite yet. you have years of mediocrity (for whatever reason, sanctions, army school, etc) that you must consider before you claim to be elite.


IMHO the elite programs are (probably forgetting at least one team)


USC
tOSU
Michigan
Alabama
Nebraska
Texas
Oklahoma
Florida
Alabama

the next level would include
LSU
Tennessee
Penn State
Georgia

but probably not TAMU. TAMU has a career winning percentage of .598.


cliffs: look at history and the numbers. You are not elite. You have all the potential in the world right now (freshman heisman winner, great coach, great OC, great recruiting base, best conference, possible new stadium, etc) but none of those mean you are elite. wins, trophies, conference championships and accolades make you elite, which you are light on. Again this could all change in 10-15 years, but until you've won them you aren't elite.


Good luck TAMU
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/30/12 at 6:15 pm to
frick you.

Non-biased fan.

"Aggy"

Eat a dick, sip.
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