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re: Football early signing periods in the very near future?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:13 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:13 pm to Crowknowsbest
If you aren't 100% sure don't sign early. Simple as that.
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:16 pm to TideSaint
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If you aren't 100% sure don't sign early. Simple as that.
You know damn well that's not how it will work.
All a coach has to say is "sign now or lose your spot." These are 17-18 years olds who are easy for grown men to pressure. Prospects won't take that chance.
This just adds another vehicle for 40-60 year old professionals to pressure teenagers into rushed decisions.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:16 pm to TideSaint
I'm all for an early signing period. The only kids that will sign are the ones that are 100% convinced they are going to that school, and the coaches are 100% alright with the "take". Honestly, there won't be a ton of early "signees".
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:17 pm to gatordmb89
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I'm all for an early signing period. The only kids that will sign are the ones that are 100% convinced they are going to that school, and the coaches are 100% alright with the "take". Honestly, there won't be a ton of early "signees".
The kids are 17 and 18.
They are 100% convinced until they aren't 100% convinced.
Some kids commit at 15 and 16 years old. How often do those commitments falter? All the freaking time.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:19 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:Nothing, just curious why you said that.
What's "eh" about what I said?
quote:There's lot's of upside for a kid. One, the phone stops ringing and coaches stop hounding the kids. It can be draining on them during the process.
There is very limited benefit for players
Two, it's an insurance policy for them. Look at the big kid from Tucker this year who broke his neck. He would have had his scholly still in tact if he could have signed an early signing. (Assuming they have on earlier than Thanksgiving.)
Personally, if they don't do it earlier than Thanksgiving I don't see the point in saving 2 months.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:19 pm to meansonny
quote:Not if you're Mark Richt.
How often do those commitments falter? All the freaking time.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:19 pm to gatordmb89
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The current system has worked for years.
This is the kind of change that could have enormous unintended consequences for the whole recruiting process.
This is the kind of change that could have enormous unintended consequences for the whole recruiting process.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:21 pm to Crowknowsbest
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The current system has worked for years.
This is the kind of change that could have enormous unintended consequences for the whole recruiting process.
It works for other sports. Why not football?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:22 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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There's lot's of upside for a kid. One, the phone stops ringing and coaches stop hounding the kids. It can be draining on them during the process.
Stop answering the phone, and they'll stop calling. Coaches aren't in the business of wasting time. The kids who are sure can wait. It's not worth putting extra pressure on the ones that aren't.
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Two, it's an insurance policy for them.
This is the only legitimate argument I've seen for it.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:22 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:The verbal commitment garbage is getting out of control. I'm OK with not making a kid sign earlier, but these verbal commitments are screwing schools over. They lock up spots and the kid decides later that he wants to go somewhere else.
You know damn well that's not how it will work.
All a coach has to say is "sign now or lose your spot." These are 17-18 years olds who are easy for grown men to pressure. Prospects won't take that chance.
This just adds another vehicle for 40-60 year old professionals to pressure teenagers into rushed decisions.
There should be no fricking commitment without a signature. The school makes a promise to you, you should make a promise to the school.
If he wants to, he has an option to transfer just like every other kid after they get enrolled.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:23 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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It works for other sports. Why not football?
You mean basketball? Nothing about basketball recruiting should be duplicated by football. They've got an absolute mess on their hands.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:23 pm to abellsujr
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The verbal commitment garbage is getting out of control. I'm OK with not making a kid sign earlier, but these verbal commitments are screwing schools over. They lock up spots and the kid decides later that he wants to go somewhere else.
There should be no fricking commitment without a signature. The school makes a promise to you, you should make a promise to the school.
Schools drop commitments too.
In football, the schools are in the power position. Pretty much every prospect is replaceable. There's no need to give them an even stronger position.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:25 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:I am also not in agreement with that.
Schools drop commitments too.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:29 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:29 pm to abellsujr
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I am also not in agreement with that.
I would argue that the schools/coaches themselves actually created the decommitment/spot-holding mess themselves by pressuring prospects for earlier and earlier commitments.
Now it seems like they want to create rules to clean up their mess while still maintaining their advantage. It's totally self-serving for the coaches.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:29 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Stop answering the phone, and they'll stop calling. Coaches aren't in the business of wasting time
Come on man. I've seen it happen before. A kid will flat out tell schools no and they'll still come around all the time and call/text 24/7. You can tell school A you're not interested because you're going to school B but they'll just keep calling. Especially for the the high level recruits.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:31 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Come on man. I've seen it happen before. A kid will flat out tell schools no and they'll still come around all the time and call/text 24/7. You can tell school A you're not interested because you're going to school B but they'll just keep calling. Especially for the the high level recruits.
I still think that's a small price to pay for giving recruits a chance to make as informed of a decision as possible.
Steps can be taken if the calls become that much of a problem. Change your phone number
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:33 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:Coaches may have created it, but something has to stop it. I hate it when schools offer a scholarship and resend it. LSU has done it many times. I think both sides need to honor their agreement. If that means no committing, fine. If that means signing early, fine. Whatever fixes the mess.
I would argue that the schools/coaches themselves actually created the decommitment/spot-holding mess themselves by pressuring prospects for earlier and earlier commitments.
Now it seems like they want to create rules to clean up their mess while still maintaining their advantage. It's totally self-serving for the coaches.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:36 pm to abellsujr
I just think the kid that signs early is going to be the type to not go back on his commitment. He is the lifelong fan of the school he's signing with, or the kid that commits a year early.
Of course, if the HC is fired, the kid should be granted a release.
Of course, if the HC is fired, the kid should be granted a release.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:39 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Only if players who sign early are given the opportunity to back out of the agreement if a coach leaves or gets fired
That doesn't happen during the summer. Firings and leaving for other positions happens in late Fall or early Spring.
An early signing period would take place in August.
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