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re: Fight Jeff Long, Fight. - Arkansas

Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:37 pm to
Sunhog has to be trolling here...right?

No Arkansas fan is this stupid, right?



Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:37 pm to
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Our traditions go back a lot longer than 20 years



Are you even reading what I post? Especially when you add the fact that it's been that way since it was first possible.

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've been up there, I know how hated we are in Arkansas


Cool, Bama game>LSU game.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:38 pm to
Bottom line, Arky needs the SEC more than the SEC needs Arky. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I don't care how many times you want to reference money or TV ratings, if Long wants to get into a dick measuring contest...he will lose.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:40 pm to
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Especially when you add the fact that it's been that way since it was first possible.


So what?

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Cool, Bama game>LSU game.


do you really expect me to buy this? I know you people better than you know yourselves. Yeah you want to beat Bama because you always lose that game but you hateeeeeee LSU.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:41 pm to
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The 3 sports that generate revenue are Baseball, Football, and Basketball. Arkansas has very few championships of any kind in those 3 sports since being in the SEC.



Answers have been posted on this board before and it's more than you realize.

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2. Your schools endowment benefits your own school more than the SEC... winning bowl games and championships benefits the SEC. Something Arkansas does not dominate in, and your level of success could be easily replaced by another middle tier school.



Stop! Endowment was NEVER USED. You totally lost that argument. We are talking ATHLETIC REVENUE ONLY.

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3. You would lose gained revenue from bowl games, since the SEC splits up the bowl revenue and divides it among the conference. And the SEC goes to more bowls and generates more bowl game revenue than any other conference.



New contracts create new laws. ABC would love for FSU and Arkansas to cut into SEC country while cutting off Mizzou and TAMU with hellish travel distances.

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4. You are not a charter member and were invited to join the SEC. If you don't like it, then leave. I can guaran damn tee you we won't beg you to stay. Our conference is strong, and few schools would turn down the chance to become your replacement.



Means nothing now and you should realize this. As of today Missouri has the same voting rights as Alabama.
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Might want to get off your high horse, and realize you're only riding a mule, not a Clydesdale.



Really?

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:42 pm to
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So what?


So nothing, you said your traditions go way back when it's pretty well known Arkansas entered the SEC in 1992. Hence "since it was first possible". It's a tradition, not gonna argue with you, wanna be hard headed go for it. 20 years, from Day 1 in the SEC, it is one.

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do you really expect me to buy this?


Just stop it. There is no buying. It's just the truth. Ask any Arkansas fan what game on the schedule they circle ever year, you are going to get Alabama from 95% of them.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:42 pm to
Just curious but what makes you think profit of the AD is that big a deal to the SEC as a whole? Do you really think Arkansas is more important to the SEC than Tennessee??
Posted by Cecil D Diesel
Shaolin
Member since Mar 2011
9269 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:42 pm to
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I'm just telling you that nobody in BR sees that as "tradition" they see it as "forced" and no LSU fan has ever circled the Arkansas game when the schedule comes out.

Truth.

A&M is going to a much bigger rivalry.
Hell, I started a thread on the Rant, asking who people thought was our traditional rivals, and aTm got more mentions than Arkansas. This was before aTm was even in the conference.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:43 pm to
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Bottom line, Arky needs the SEC more than the SEC needs Arky. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I don't care how many times you want to reference money or TV ratings, if Long wants to get into a dick measuring contest...he will lose.

No need for all o' dat now, even if it's true...
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:44 pm to
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Bottom line, Arky needs the SEC more than the SEC needs Arky. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I don't care how many times you want to reference money or TV ratings, if Long wants to get into a dick measuring contest...he will lose.



Wrong.

That was all true in 1992. Arkansas needed the money just as we need to play in Little Rock.

Arkansas doesn't need the SEC money when the Big12 money would be equal with FSU and Arkansas.

The game has changed. Teams like Missouri, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt and MSU need the SEC money as they aren't anywhere close to Arkansas.

Arkansas' Athletic budget doubles Ole Miss and MSU with equal TV split. That is really sad.
Posted by bamascott2
XIV
Member since Apr 2009
9671 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:44 pm to
Not to hijack this fantastic thread, but allow me to guffaw for a moment at Tennessee's $14,000.



































Ok. Carry on.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:44 pm to
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So nothing, you said your traditions go way back when it's pretty well known Arkansas entered the SEC in 1992. Hence "since it was first possible". It's a tradition, not gonna argue with you, wanna be hard headed go for it. 20 years, from Day in the SEC, it is one.


You do realize we were in the SEC before 1992 right? We really don't care about 1992.

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It's just the truth. Ask any Arkansas fan what game on the schedule they circle ever year, you are going to get Alabama from 95% of them.


I just bet
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84849 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:45 pm to
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Arkansas' Athletic budget doubles Ole Miss and MSU with equal TV split. That is really sad.


The sad part is that you're bragging about this
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:45 pm to
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Bottom line, Arky needs the SEC more than the SEC needs Arky. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I don't care how many times you want to reference money or TV ratings, if Long wants to get into a dick measuring contest...he will lose.


Inconvenient truth:

Lowest rated SECCG in the last 15 years:

Georgia 30, Arkansas 3
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25663 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:46 pm to
Long reminds me of this chick... He doesn't understand what he has going on...

Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:47 pm to
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Just curious but what makes you think profit of the AD is that big a deal to the SEC as a whole? Do you really think Arkansas is more important to the SEC than Tennessee??



Equal.

LSU, Alabama, UGA and Florida are ahead of us.

If you are bringing in a new member you want to look at their fan base support, athletic revenue, debt and history.

Prime example people don't realize this but WVU was in the BigEast and made more money than Missour in the Big12. They are about to erupt on the scene with more money as the support is obviously there to strengthen the Big12.
Posted by TheNotoriousGOP
Member since Oct 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:47 pm to
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It sure would be fun for Jeff Long to throw his weight around in the boardroom.


Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:48 pm to
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You do realize we were in the SEC before 1992 right? We really don't care about 1992.


No shite? How do you think you build a tradition? Time. Max allowed time for this scenario: 20 years. Years completed: 20 years. Technically 21 years since Long said 2012-2013 schedule has LSU has final game.

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I just bet
I'm not sure if you are just really jealous of Alabama, or this dumb. Either way, don't bet much.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:49 pm to
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The sad part is that you're bragging about this



Proving the SEC money is only 1/3 of the revenue stream when looking at Net Worth of a program.

You would certainly think SEC money would bring MSU and Ole Miss into respectability and it sure hasn't.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 6/1/12 at 6:49 pm to
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allow me to guffaw for a moment at Tennessee's $14,000.




I see $6M.
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