re: Expansion Teams vs. Blueblood SEC

Unless that TAMU defense improves like 1000 percent, aggie football is going to be middle of the pack at best.

I think the East is up for grabs by 3-5 teams for the foreseeable future. USC and UGA are probably the favorites this year, but next year I would think Florida and Mizzou would have an advantage due to QB's and returning skill players. UGA and USC both lose a lot after this season correct?

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UGA and USC both lose a lot after this season correct?

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You still have yet to grasp the reloading-effect in the SEC.

SCAR's 2015 recruiting class, right now, is consensus #2 in the country behind Bama's.

But to answer your question, up until Saban got to Bama, UGA consistently field the most talented teams in the conference and will continue to field one of the most talented teams in the conference year-in and year-out.

So no, were I you I would not expect SCAR or UGA to fall-off much after this coming season.

UGA loses Gurshall but will still be loaded at RB. Not sure about the rest of their roster or depth chart at the moment.

SCAR loses Davis and Thompson, a couple of WRs, a few OLinemen, a TE ... but we're so loaded depth-wise, I dunno if I'd expect much of a drop-off. We'll see how much playing-time the young QBs get this season.

Tennessee, who you failed to mention, is absolutely loading-up with talent. It is yet to be seen if Jones can coach'em-up but they will be loaded with talent.

Florida gonna Florida, they will not stay down for long. Driskel is a RJr so it'll be up to him if he returns for another year. I would imagine that he would unless he has some kind of monster year this year that would get him taken in the first couple of rounds of the 2015 draft.

And finally, I'm not sure, but isn't Kentucky out-recruiting Mizzou right now like they did last year? Ignore Kentucky at your on peril but Kentucky is not just sitting still waiting on Mizzou to pass them in the historical pecking-order. No SEC team is going to sit still.

"Foreseeable future?" The one thing about the SEC is that there is no magic crystal ball to allow any of us to see very far into the future when it comes to the SEC. It's an arms race of full magnitude in college football and the only thing we can all bet-on for sure is that everyone is out to win and everyone has the money and motivation to make it interesting.

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SCAR's 2015 recruiting class, right now, is consensus #2 in the country behind Bama's.

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While I agree with most of what you say, this is simply not true.

Cocks are doing very well, but A&M is #2 in the 247 Composite. If USC was a consensus, then they would hold that place, not 5th place.

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So you lose your entire offense and don't expect a drop off?

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Mizzou isn't this year so why should we? Y'all lost more this past offseason than we will next year.

This mindset of "Yeah, but you lose x" is the most short-sighted, ludicrous, over-played argument on this board.
It's as if some people just started following football 3 months ago.

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This mindset of "Yeah, but you lose x" is the most short-sighted, ludicrous, over-played argument on this board.

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You can make the argument if you acknowledge that your team also lost key players. Usually people (like the guy I was responding to) only look at what their opponents lost.

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This mindset of "Yeah, but you lose x" is the most short-sighted, ludicrous, over-played argument on this board.
It's as if some people just started following football 3 months ago.

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I agree with this. You gotta look at the overall shape of the program ... depth, stability, cohesiveness of the staff, recruiting, etc.

You can usually look two or three years ahead for most programs and make educated guesses at trends.

Everyone saw UT's decline happening under Hamilton. They've bottomed-out and have nowhere to go but up.

Bama is a good bet to stay solid for awhile. Same could be said for LSU and UGA.

SCAR and A&M are trending upwards with Spurrier and Sumlin and their recruiting and building projects going-on.

Ole Miss is teetering on an ascent. Their future really rides on the next couple of seasons.

Florida will not be down for long. They will not tolerate it. Spurrier permanently raised expectations there just as he is doing at SCAR right now.

Miss State has always been what they are right now. They are consistently good, rarely great if ever.

Kentucky is hard to gauge right now.

Arkansas is in deep trouble right now.

Mizzou ... they need to capitalize on last year, his year. They just need to finish in the top half of the East and sign a Top 25 class. And they have to keep their losses close this season.

Auburn is probably the most under appreciated program in the conference compared to what they have accomplished. They are always going to find s way to bat .800 every decade for awhile.

It's not difficult to project-out a little ways ... but to try to predict one session not knowing depth and chemistry and staff stability questions is just an effort in futility.

IMHO every year every program has a chance for a miracle session in this league, but that's more about believing and lucky breaks and momentum than it is anything else. Along with favorable.scheduling, fortunate circumstances, etc.

You guys are hilarious. No one on this board knew who Sam, Ealy, Washington, or Lucas was last year. Now you guys want to claim that we can't reload because we lost a bunch of players you had never heard of? Give me a fricking break. Just because these guys don't have "stars" next to their names in the recruiting rankings doesn't mean they can't compete in the SEC. Mizzou has the 8th best winning percentage in ALL of the BCS over the last 5 years and has continuously competed for conference championships since 2007. The southern superiority complex is getting old very quickly.

Oh in 2010 White #6 WR, Hunt #43, Sasser #67 in the country. These guys are not 2 star freshmen, they're 3+ star 5th year seniors.