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re: ESPN: Taylor Arrest Exposes Alabama

Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:56 am to
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16179 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:56 am to
anybody else feel like ESPN is putting their hand in the cookie jar here. i mean if it wasn't for the likes of the ESPN's of the world pouring millions into more college football coverage and in turn making winning that much more important we wouldnt see coaches taking chances on kids like this. College football is a business, just like the NFL. i dont blame saban and any other school in that case for trying to win at all costs. ESPN needs to just shut the frick up because they rely heavily on teams such as Alabama to put the best product on the field. all they are is hypocrites.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 9:57 am
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 9:57 am to
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BAMA fans are hilarious, they worry about other schools misdemeanors and cleared cases, yet defend this Thug.
Name one poster that has defended Taylor. Just one
Posted by Crimson
Member since Jan 2013
1331 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:01 am to
This may be a knife to a gunfight as I typically don't keep up with former Auburn players but...

quote:

Eric Smith, who already had been given a second chance, was quickly dismissed after his arrest on a charge of domestic violence in February of 2011. Antonio Goodwin, Shaun Kitch­ens, Dakota Mosley and Mike McNeil were quickly dispatched after their ar­rests as part of an armed robbery in March of 2011.


LINK


Glass house, Aubies
Posted by 2smooth
Member since Jan 2015
2777 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:05 am to
coachcrisp seems to have been early on. I haven't been paying attention lately on where he stands now.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:05 am to
quote:

anybody else feel like ESPN is putting their hand in the cookie jar here. i mean if it wasn't for the likes of the ESPN's of the world pouring millions into more college football coverage and in turn making winning that much more important we wouldnt see coaches taking chances on kids like this. College football is a business, just like the NFL. i dont blame saban and any other school in that case for trying to win at all costs. ESPN needs to just shut the frick up because they rely heavily on teams such as Alabama to put the best product on the field. all they are is hypocrites.
Somebody turned the light on! It's all hype, promotion, and merchandising done for...you guessed it....$$$$$$
Unfortunately, it's what you get when the dollar becomes involved.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30450 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:08 am to
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you cant have it both ways alice


Okay Sally.

Looks like you're combining my thoughts with someone else's?

That's the only way to confuse my sentiment with someone that is complaining about their arrests since I never said that.

Don't worry. You are doing what 90% of the other kids that lack a high school education do: respond about I've said two thing when I only said one (Also spare us the blurb about how smart you are. We know already, now).

Dude, your fan base is the most embarrassing this side of Morgantown WV. You are a posterchild for it, obviously.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:08 am to
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Eric Smith, who already had been given a second chance, was quickly dismissed after his arrest on a charge of domestic violence in February of 2011

DV wasn't the en vogue thing at that time.
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:08 am to
I will post this at the beginning of my post and at the end to make sure its not missed: I'm not blaming the female in this event!

Now, I'm basing this on the assumption that the female and Taylor were in some sort of a relationship here. And we all know what you do when you assume, but anyway.....
Was this young lady (assuming they were in some sort of relationship) not also giving the guy a 2nd or 3rd chance? What was her motivation for (assuming) dating a guy with this history who happened to be really good at football?

I agree with everything said that Saban blew it by taking a chance on this guy with his program, but any female that is with this dude is taking a chance with their life. I see that as a much bigger mistake.

Again: I'm not saying the girl did anything to deserve this. Just posting a new different way to look at who all got played by this guy for whatever their motives were.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:09 am to
Will not take the time but some of the BAMA folks comparing DV to misdemeanor smaller crimes committed at other schools. IMHO, That is defending him, however deflection would also be accurate.

Everyone knew he embarassed Saban and must go.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21853 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:12 am to
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i dont blame saban and any other school in that case for trying to win at all costs.


I think the point here is the line needs to be drawn at players who are a danger to the community which is clearly present here.

University of Alabama, the AD, and Nick Saban clearly did not care for the safety of students and the community, but were focused solely on football...

The line should be drawn with the safety of the community. Pretty simple.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32484 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Believe anything you want, but every major college program has thugs and no coach making 4 million a year cares about the character of his players until it becomes a media problem for his program.



Miles kicked a Heisman finalist off the team and nobody saw it coming.

There weren't even rumors or questions in the public beforehand.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:14 am to
And how many drug tests did he admit to failing after "nobody saw it coming"? That would be alarming to me.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21853 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Miles kicked a Heisman finalist off the team and nobody saw it coming.


Because he has never done it to the people who deserved it in the past

quote:

There weren't even rumors or questions in the public beforehand.


Because he has never done it to the people who deserved it in the past
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27427 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

LSU


quote:

All offered scholarships. He visited all three.


the offer wasn't committable, or he'd be at LSU.

LSU wouldn't take him until the past legal issues were behind him.

His GF at the time was an LSU student, so I guess this is another woman he was beating up in Tuscaloosa
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

I will post this at the beginning of my post and at the end to make sure its not missed: I'm not blaming the female in this event!

Now, I'm basing this on the assumption that the female and Taylor were in some sort of a relationship here. And we all know what you do when you assume, but anyway.....
Was this young lady (assuming they were in some sort of relationship) not also giving the guy a 2nd or 3rd chance? What was her motivation for (assuming) dating a guy with this history who happened to be really good at football?

I agree with everything said that Saban blew it by taking a chance on this guy with his program, but any female that is with this dude is taking a chance with their life. I see that as a much bigger mistake.

Again: I'm not saying the girl did anything to deserve this. Just posting a new different way to look at who all got played by this guy for whatever their motives were.

Here is an attempt to defend and give excuses. Blame the victim. The disclaimers in his post do not change the intent.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:16 am to
he'd have suited up for his jr year at Bama
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I think the point here is the line needs to be drawn at players who are a danger to the community which is clearly present here


I think this sounded good in your head but you didn't think this one through.

By definition, domestic violence is not public violence. There are all sorts of reasons that it is serious and needs to be addressed, but the one area that it is NOT is the danger to the community. A guy getting in a bar fight is more of a danger to the community. Someone guilty of domestic violence is a danger not to the community but to the people living with him. SERIOUS danger in some cases, and definitely a serious crime...but the "danger to the community" angle is pretty weak.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:23 am to
False. If LSU offered he would have been at LSU. We did not offer because of his felony charge.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:25 am to
quote:

By definition, domestic violence is not public violence.


You can't trust a guy that will beat up women on multiple occasions.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:27 am to
quote:

coachcrisp seems to have been early on. I haven't been paying attention lately on where he stands now.
Go find it,pal. Look twice.
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