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re: ESPN Sports Science on Derrick Henry

Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:59 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 10:59 am to
DeMarco Murray in 2013 averaged 5.2 yds/carry and rushed for over 1,100 yards. In 2014 he averaged 4.7 yds/carry and rushed for over 1,800 yards. He also lead the entire league in rushing. With the Eagles, he averaged 3.6 yds/carry. In the Cowboys West Coast offense, when DeMarco could get a few steps forward and pick up some steam, he was deadly. Deadly enough to where he was the most productive running back in the entire NFL. When he played in Chip Kelly's zone blocking scheme, one that utilizes lateral quickness, his numbers fell off dramatically. Even a third string scat back was better suited to run the ball on first down. Henry in a zone blocking scheme will become unraveled. His lateral quickness is far worse than DeMarco Murray's. In the right system? He'll be beyond serviceable. A West coast offense with downhill running? Perfect fit if he can learn to run a little bit less upright.

Now pay attention. I'm comparing Henry's style to one that lead to the most productive season in Dallas Cowboys history, and the gumps won't be able to take off their blinders for one second to admit what everyone else knows. His lateral quickness will be a BIG issue in the NFL. No one is doubting his talent in other areas.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:01 am to
I question his lateral agility/quickness, but my main concern in the mileage on him. I'm not just talking about college. We have to remember how many carries the dude had in high-school.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:02 am to
It will depend heavily on the system he is drafted into. I'm hoping the front offices of the NFL pay attention to his running style to ensure it fits their need, instead of just taking him off the board because they view him as the best available RB left when their time comes.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:18 am to
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It will depend heavily on the system he is drafted into. I'm hoping the front offices of the NFL pay attention to his running style to ensure it fits their need, instead of just taking him off the board because they view him as the best available RB left when their time comes.



The problem is that his lack of versatility, even if it meshes with the current system, lacks value. Especially at the running back position.
Posted by Patton
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:24 am to
Would anyone be shocked if a GM asked him to try D after two or three years of not much production at RB?


I wonder if he'd be able to make that switch.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:27 am to
I'd like to see him in Denver. I think he'd be pretty good in Kubiak's system. They aren't going to take him since the just resigned Anderson though.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:29 am to
There's still a chance. They've been in talks with Ronnie Hillman, to resign him, but the guy sucks and I hope they pass. In other words, all they have is CJ Anderson and nobody behind him. They want to establish a running game and also don't have a quarterback, so it isn't out of the question.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:32 am to
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There's still a chance.


Arian Foster's big knock was a lack of lateral quickness, but he was great at the stretch zone because of his patience and explosion downhill. I think it would be a really good fit.

Henry is a bigger, stronger and faster Arian Foster.
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:33 am to
What happened with Denver and AJ? I have seen nothing in a while.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:35 am to
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Backs in the NFL are rarely able to hit holes without making a cut, and that's Henry's biggest weakness. I will admit that I was wrong about him before. I said he wasn't going to be very good in the NFL, but I think I was wrong. While doesn't have the elite lateral quickness that most of the top backs have, but he has a unique combination of acceleration and power when his shoulders are square and he can go downhill.


He doesn't look like an every down back at the next level.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:38 am to
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I'd like to see him in Denver. I think he'd be pretty good in Kubiak's system. They aren't going to take him since the just resigned Anderson though.


The inside zone blocking stuff is still going to be an issue, IMO. Arian Foster was great at it, but he was a stockier, lower center of gravity kind of guy.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:38 am to
quote:

e doesn't look like an every down back at the next level.


I agree. He doesn't seem to be a 3DRB in today's NFL. I still think he can be a good primary back for the right team though.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:41 am to
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I question his lateral agility/quickness, but my main concern in the mileage on him. I'm not just talking about college. We have to remember how many carries the dude had in high-school.


In what I've seen, he seems to do a pretty good job of avoiding unnecessary contact. Still, his knees are probably going to be worthless in 3-4 years.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:41 am to
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The inside zone blocking stuff is still going to be an issue, IMO. Arian Foster was great at it, but he was a stockier, lower center of gravity kind of guy.


I can see Henry being deadly in the zone stretch play, but I agree he would struggle with the inside zone runs.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:42 am to
Absolute beast
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:48 am to
Mileage. The dude is 22?ish. He's in absolutely peak condition. Much stronger than he was in high school.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:49 am to
Average career for an RB in the NFL is about 2.5 years.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:52 am to
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Average career for an RB in the NFL is about 2.5 years.


Not the good/great ones, so many of those are RBs who couldn't even make it in the league.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:54 am to
1,397 carries in high school, 602 carries in college. That's a lot.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:56 am to
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He doesn't look like an every down back at the next level.


In the current NFL style of play, *NO* back is an every down back.
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