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re: ESPN ranks Alabama's RBs as the best position group in America
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:37 pm to CockRocket
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:37 pm to CockRocket
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I would take Gurley and a Mr. Goodbar over Bama's backs
I wish I could remember who it was, but in a thread a few weeks ago about the best backfields in the SEC, someone (might have been a SC fan I think) said Gurley and a plastic grocery bag blowing in the wind would be the best just due to gurley
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:43 pm to WG_Dawg
Gurley hands down best rb in SEC. But as a group Alabama. They have like ten 4 and 5 star rbs.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:43 pm to WG_Dawg
Yeah it was an SC poster. Can't remember who though. He also went on to say Gurley pushing Marshall in a wheelchair or Gurley pulling Marshall's dead corpse behind him would make for the top duo.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:45 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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I have no idea who he is
Did you not watch much football last year?
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when was the last time a featured back in a run-heavy offense averaged 9 ypc?
What do you define as feature back?
The role he plays is notorious for having big plays. Onterrio McCalebb averaged about 9 I believe in 2010
I watched plenty of football last year. Sorry if I didn't memorize the name of your 647 yard rusher with nearly 1/4th of his production from one game against a Pac 12 team.
As for "featured back," I mean someone with a workload equivalent of Mason, who didn't even come close to averaging 9 ypc. Are you seriously suggesting that Grant is good enough to shoulder the bulk of Auburn's rushing game and have a ypc average that would easily place him amongst the greatest running backs of all time?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:45 pm to CockRocket
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Gurley pulling Marshall's dead corpse behind him would make for the top duo.
I laughed harder than I should have
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:53 pm to randomways
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I watched plenty of football last year. Sorry if I didn't memorize the name of your 647 yard rusher with nearly 1/4th of his production from one game against a Pac 12 team.
Your memory just must be terrible. If I watch a game of any team, I'll at least have an idea who a player is if he plays.
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As for "featured back," I mean someone with a workload equivalent of Mason, who didn't even come close to averaging 9 ypc
Well no shite. Mason was used much more up the middle.
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Are you seriously suggesting that Grant is good enough to shoulder the bulk of Auburn's rushing game and have a ypc average that would easily place him amongst the greatest running backs of all time?
No. Where did I indicate otherwise? Grant is used in a role that magnifies his speed. the plays he gets called for will be big chunk plays. He won't get that many runs up the middle, because we have a bigger back that is just as good, to do that.
Statistically, Grant will probably end close to 10 ypc, as he did last year. Even with an increased role.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:54 pm to graves1
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But as a group Alabama. They have like ten 4 and 5 star rbs
And...?
This isn't about how many star ratings you have, it's about the best. Gurley is clearly the best in the league, if not America. Keith Marshall would start for probably 100 other college football teams. Those guys have proven that they are legit, proven RBs. And if you're so enamored with potential on the bench, we also have 2 other five stars coming in this year in Michel and Chubb.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
This thread . . .
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:32 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Your memory just must be terrible. If I watch a game of any team, I'll at least have an idea who a player is if he plays.
Well, good for you. I'm so proud you can remember all 22 starters, plus special teams, plus subs, plus garbage time 2nd and 3rd stringers, if applicable. Seriously, I'm beaming with pride that I get to talk to an idiot savant of football player memorization. Now, without looking it up, give me the rundown of every single SEC-W team. I won't even ask for subs, just all their starters. I assume you watched all of Auburn's games against conference competition, right?
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No. Where did I indicate otherwise? Grant is used in a role that magnifies his speed. the plays he gets called for will be big chunk plays. He won't get that many runs up the middle, because we have a bigger back that is just as good, to do that.
Statistically, Grant will probably end close to 10 ypc, as he did last year. Even with an increased role.
I never said you did. I brought it up on the entirely reasonable assumption that we have no idea how an unproven freshman RB will perform. But someone is likely to replace Mason unless Gus retools his two-back set, and until we see what Roc can do, it seems probable that it'll be one of your current backs. If that's not Grant, then who? This is an actual question, just like last time, not an attempt to make you feel snippy and defensive.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:37 pm to Tuscaloosa
How about not 
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:38 pm to WG_Dawg
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And...?
This isn't about how many star ratings you have, it's about the best. Gurley is clearly the best in the league, if not America. Keith Marshall would start for probably 100 other college football teams. Those guys have proven that they are legit, proven RBs. And if you're so enamored with potential on the bench, we also have 2 other five stars coming in this year in Michel and Chubb.
Gurley > Yeldon >/= Drake > Marshall
Henry still isn't fully proven.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:43 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Todd Gurley > TJ Yeldon > Keith Marshall > Derrick Henry > Kenyan Drake
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:46 pm to TTsTowel
I wish him the best, but odds are Keith Marshall won't be the same back he was before his injury this season. It just usually doesn't happen like that.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:47 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Henry might be the best of them all...and if he is Heisman-good, this position ranking could be accurate. However, is that a BIT of a reach at this point considering no one really has a clue what Henry can do? Yeldon is an upper-tier back...but unless he has some kind of Julio Jones breakout season, I don't think anyone outside of Daphne or Tuscaloosa would argue that he is a GREAT back. I would have said the same thing about Tre Mason btw, so this could be Yeldon's year like Mason's was last year. But not yet. And Drake is a great change of pace back...but couldn't be the feature back in most offenses. So WHAT THE frick ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? If it's the best RB group in the SEC (it's not), it is only by default...but it's also the best in the country? And the best of any position group in the country?
Hell, I'd put Auburn's OL over Bama's RB's....and wouldn't presume that Auburn has the best OL in the country, let alone the best regardless of position group. This is some dumb shite right here.
Hell, I'd put Auburn's OL over Bama's RB's....and wouldn't presume that Auburn has the best OL in the country, let alone the best regardless of position group. This is some dumb shite right here.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 2:57 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Auburn, Wisconsin and Georgia's RBs>Alabama's
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:00 pm to TTsTowel
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Todd Gurley > TJ Yeldon > Keith Marshall > Derrick Henry > Kenyan Drake
Agreed, at least for now with what we have.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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#1 rate JUCO running back. We'll see Nicolae
#3 actually. Notice I said Composite, meaning the only ranking that really matters.
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Not really. He had 9.8 last year. If he averages 9 ypc this year, would you not say that is close to 10?
Did you note where I said he'll likely have more carries this year than last? Not as hard to post a high per carry average when you only carry the ball 66 times (46 came when AU was leading). Especially when only 17 of those carries came against ranked teams.
Yes, fifth. Maybe worse. I'd like to see what USC has behind Davis and Ark other than Collins. Bama, LSU and UGA are all unarguably better groups.
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He has more physical talent than Mason. That you wouldn't even classify him as a "solid back" makes you appear rather delusional. He won't get as much production as Mason, most likely. Too many players splitting carries, and more passing.
Ehh, he is bigger than Mason. He is much less elusive and not nearly as quick though. I might be pushing it saying he won't be a "solid back", but if he is the best the War Tigers have this year, then hope that Marshall actually learned how to pass or this season isn't going to be nearly as much fun as last.
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I can't wait to see your reaction when he's one of the top rushers in the SEC.
You'll be waiting a long while. I'll be waiting about 7 months to see your reaction when he isn't top 3, though. :BartScottCan'tWait:
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:19 pm to TTsTowel
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What the actual frick x's 3.
Coach's son? Pity offer?
What?
Other teams scraps should be obvious, that is Grant. I may have mixed up someone with the coach's son remark, but almost all your backs that aren't Roc would qualify for pity offer from the POV of a UGA, or Bama, or LSU fan. The "nobody" is Barber and Roc is Roc so I'm hoping that wasn't one of the ones that confused you.
Decent looking pair of whites, but neither of them appear up to the task of replacing Prosch.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:23 pm to Nicolae
quote:No shite, you think?
I may have mixed up someone with the coach's son remark
quote:Based on what? Your baseless opinion?
The "nobody" is Barber
quote:Again, based on what? Do you even know who's supposed to be filling Jay Prosch's role?
Decent looking pair of whites, but neither of them appear up to the task of replacing Prosch.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:25 pm to TTsTowel
That nobody rushed for 1800 yards and 22 TDs at one of the best HS teams in Georgia
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