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re: ESPN Rank 'Em SEC best head coach

Posted on 10/5/08 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 5:53 pm to
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but how much "coaching" do they actually have to do with a virtual plethora of talent at their disposal.


So why is it that teams like USC lose to teams like Oregon State or Stanford? Aren't USC players so good that they can just walk out on the field and win? Obviously the answer is "no." College talent without great coaching will get you beat a lot because there are plenty of talented, and well-coached teams out there. Most college players who are talented are pretty raw when they come in and it takes good coaching to develop them. Players don't just automatically become good, especially at QB, O-line, D-Backs, etc.

Now of course it is easier to be a "great" coach when you have lots of talent. But part of being a great coach is getting great talent and developing it. If you are a good game coach, but can't recruit, then you aren't a great coach. It's the total package.

I find it odd that people say that LSU is so talented it doesn't matter if Miles can coach. But they never say the same thing about Meyer or Carroll who have teams with as much or more talent. Nobody said or say it about Saban either. But then Miles has done more with Saban's players than Saban did. And he was the one who developed the talent, not Saban over the last 3 years.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36480 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 6:01 pm to
richt, miles, meyer, tuberville, saban, and spurrier are interchangeable. theres no use arguing bc everyone will say different things with different opinions.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 6:17 pm to
I would agree that any one of these coaches would be successful if you played musical chairs with them, swapping them from one school to another. Trying to rank them is pretty much a waste of time for the present. But they are successful precisely because they have a combination of talented players and talented coaching.
Posted by JudgeBoyett
Mayor of LSWhoville
Member since Feb 2007
1801 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 6:29 pm to
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Meyer would probably be fine at Bama. His personality is not much different than Saban's.


Meyer would get eaten alive at Bama. Saban is a perfect antidote to the fanbase. And they love him for it. Meyer would have 11 players apologizing for him after a loss instead of just one.
Posted by DocHog
Member since Nov 2006
1915 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 7:32 pm to
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I bet MSU, arkansas,


No we wouldn't. We'll be just fine; just wait and see
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2032 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 7:55 pm to
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No we wouldn't. We'll be just fine; just wait and see



I guess Petrino gets a free pass being it is his first year and all, but I'm not sold on him one bit. Pass pass pass with no defense may work in Conference USA and the Big East, but I just don't see him putting together a SEC champion team with defense being low priority.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 8:28 pm to
Yeah, Bobby Johnson is the worst coach in the SEC with the least support. He only leads the SEC East at almost the halfway point in the year.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 10/5/08 at 8:32 pm to
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