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re: Doesn't it speak volumes that Alabama being voted

Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:03 pm to
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And I haven't even mentioned the absurd computer rankings that Big12 teams have this year. They are down right laughable and a big reason why people look at some of OSU's wins and think they are good wins. OSU really lucked out with that.

...I don't even know what to say to this.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:04 pm to
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It is something you consider. But I'd say that the caliber of teams you've beaten is more important than how badly you beat them.



I agree with you, but in this case, if you're an objective voter, you would probably be considering BOTH whereas too many making Oklahoma State's case are trying to bracket off dominance of the wins as if that isn't something to consider at all.

This is exactly like claiming Alabama proponents want to only focus on losses. It's purposefully selecting certain elements of the resume while effacing others to make an argument.

It's understandable but it's certainly not objectively looking at "total body of work".



This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 3:13 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:04 pm to
Ok boss
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:06 pm to
You don't think the Big12's computer rankings were way off? And do you not think OSU looked better because of them? Hell it directly affected how many points they scored in the computers.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:07 pm to
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I agree with you but in this case, if you're an objective voter, you would probably be considering BOTH and whereas too many Oklahoma's State case are trying to bracket off both dominance of the wins as if that isn't something to consider at all.

This is exactly like claiming Alabama proponents want to only focus on losses. It's purposefully selecting certain elements of the resume while effacing others to make an argument.

It's understandable but it's certainly not objectively looking at "total body of work".
I am looking at both. And the advantage of Okie st beating more BCS top 25 teams, more teams with winning records, and winning their conference championship is more than enough to overcome the differences in how dominant each team was.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:07 pm to
Well,you've convinced me.

Alabama > Green Bay
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:08 pm to
If that is your opinion then I'd have to respect it. We just disagree I guess. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:08 pm to
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You don't think the Big12's computer rankings were way off?
No. I think they were the best conference this year, top to bottom.
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And do you not think OSU looked better because of them? Hell it directly affected how many points they scored in the computers.
Of course they looked better because of it. Because they were playing better teams.

I know it's hard for some people to believe, but the SEC wasn't all that great outside of the top few schools.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:08 pm to
I haven't said anyting close to that
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:08 pm to
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If that is your opinion then I'd have to respect it. We just disagree I guess. Nothing wrong with that.

Word. Same here.
Posted by lsurebel4
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
45 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:11 pm to
Bottom Line.

Alabama has only beaten 3 teams with a winning record. Their only competition was LSU and they got spanked at home. OSU deserved their shot. They beat more teams with a +.500 record, more top 25, AND won their conference. BAMA had their shot, and blew it. They DID NOT deserve a rematch. TOTAL BCS! LSU will beat that arse this go round! :spank:
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:11 pm to
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No. I think they were the best conference this year, top to bottom.


Oklahoma has been averaging something like 4th in the computer polls. They aren't that good you know that. Same with Texas Baylor and K State. They have had very inflated computer rankings. Idk what they were in the final polls btw.

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:12 pm to
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Their only competition was LSU and they got spanked at home


We are trying to have civil conversation. Go away.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 3:31 pm to
Any LSU fan that's totally honest with themselves will admit Bama is better than Okie State. The don't want a rematch because they know Okie State is an easy win. All this whining is about not wanting to play a better Bama team. The best 2 teams are in the SEC and everyone knows it. Who cares how many overrated Big 10 teams Okie State beat?
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