re: Does the SEC want the Sooners?

OU is a great program in every respect. However, expansion is about money.

While the Sooners are a national draw, money right now comes from carriage fees. North Carolina and Virginia are among the 10 most populous, and 10 fastest growing states.

There's a ton of cable money to be made from them, and Oklahoma can't touch it. For that matter, only about three SEC states can (Texas, Florida, & Georgia).

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#4 Join SEC as a pair (OU +KU)

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+KU

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And people thought Mizzou wasn't a good fit? Really? kU?? Oh, cheese. Just when I was really agreeing with you, too.























But still ...
I can't imagine this ever happening.

If the Big 12 fails, ku is likely heading to the B1G. They are a much better fit there, and it would be humiliating for them to lower themselves by joining the SEC. Trust me on this Grits, their nickname for us (Mizzou) is Slavers, so they couldn't handle being in a conference full of "slavers".

jackie sherrill said back in 2012 that ultimately he saw the sec going to 20 teams. adding ou, okie state, and texas. which would facilitate 3 more teams in the east which i think the best bets would be both north carolina schools and clemson.


that would give us 4 5 team pods with a cbs broadcast game in the east at the traditional 2 pm time slot and a 7 pm night game in the west broadcast most likely on fox.


and frankly that would give us the best geographical continuity of all the conferences and moves us towards 4 twenty team conferences. while only 60 or so teams make money a 64 team power 4 conference model leaves a lot a people out in the cold, once you move to a 4 super conference model every one should make money.

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#1 Ditch OK State

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For about the fifth time. They are a package deal only. T-Boone and the OK legislature will NEVER (big word) allow this to happen.

Mizzou4ever covered the ku situation. No way to the SEC.

Biggest losers in realignment are ISU and KSU.

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i don't think anybody would under any super conference scenario expect equal revenue sharing by the four individual conferences.

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I am not saying equal, you missed the point.

I am saying the more mouths you feed the smaller the slices get. What is the incentive for this to happen?

Look at this another way, they keep expanding teams in NCAA basketball but it is not increasing attendance. Used to be you went to NCAA tourney the venues were filled but now days the upper decks are empty. You just do not see it because TV is aware and shooting low camera angles. The money is still made on the Sweet 16 and Final Four.

For all the folks thinking football will go to 8 team or 16 team playoffs they are forgetting the added games will be hard to fill the seats. The reason for this is the dynamics outside of winning and losing. If you are a school like Ohio State or Texas A&M and you have 50,000 kids going through your school a year you reproducing lots of living alumni. If you are a fringe school in the 60 - 80 school group discussed in the post above you may be sending 10,000 kids through your school per year. Math gets pretty simple as to the pool who can travel and fill your seats.

Did you watch the PAC CCG this year? It is a defacto playoff game yet the place was empty for such an event. When the B1G did their initial B1G CCG they were paying people to sit in the seats so it did not look so empty. Put another way, schools already in the P5 are not pulling their weight and drag the $$$$ down yet you want to add 20 more? How crazy is that?

The SEC is unique in that the south is rabid about sports. The B1G has history and population centers. After these 2, the drop off gets huge for the other P5's on their ability to draw. Look at this LINK and look at the schools in that 60 - 80 range and look at how low those numbers are. Viewed another way, What teams in that range can you see supporting a 75K seat stadium? In the age of big time college sports, the operant word is Big!

I don't really want to add any other Big 12 teams.

Give me Va. Tech and Virginia together. Or NC and NCST.

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we're talking about decreasing the universe of major college football from 130 plus teams with more coming every year to a hard fixed 80 teams

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If you look at that list above, you could compress it to four 12 team conferences and accomplish 95% of real D1 college football. Schools like Wake Forest and Washington State are probably safe but they are already dead weight.

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you'd assume those 80 teams would expand the number of scholarships given out by those 80 schools and ultimately attract the best athletes.

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I would say you could do it with half that number and hit most of the talent needed to fill the pros rosters.

Basically what is now D1 football could easily split into 2 divisions of about 64 teams each. The upper division would be your P5 (or P4) teams and the lower division would be your current Gang of 5 schools. The IVY schools ruled what the first 50 years of college football yet none play D1 ball now. Somewhere a smart person said sports money was better used for education and none of them are hurting for going that route.

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I want Texas, purely for the Aggie meltdown

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Add Mizzou and myself.

After about 2 years of texass, add the rest of the SEC. Mark my words.