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re: Does Sumlin hold Chief to a different standard than Miles did?

Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:13 am to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:13 am to
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No shite. Mostly based on the relationships created with Brick, Raymond, Wilson, etc. Look at how many guys have Kirby Smith listed as their recruiter on Rivals. You might see Chavis' name their once or twice in the past few years.






Sounds like y'all have a good support staff. Les obviously allowed Chavis to spend a large portion of his time and energy working on fielding a top SEC defense.

If Chavis didn't put forth a lot of effort on the recruiting trail then that's Miles fault. It's Miles team, he is the boss the dictates what everyone of his coaches are supposed to do every day.

Sorry, to call an asst coach or a coordinator lazy just reflects poorly on the man in charge.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11429 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:15 am to
All LSU, ALL THE TIME.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24433 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:16 am to
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Sounds like y'all have a good support staff. Les obviously allowed Chavis to spend a large portion of his time and energy working on fielding a top SEC defense.

If Chavis didn't put forth a lot of effort on the recruiting trail then that's Miles fault. It's Miles team, he is the boss the dictates what everyone of his coaches are supposed to do every day.

Sorry, to call an asst coach or a coordinator lazy just reflects poorly on the man in charge.


It's give and take with Chief. As long as he putting a D on the field it's no big deal. Give up 5 games in 2 years in the last 2 minutes and it gets old.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60185 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:20 am to
Why is he solely responsible for that?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22784 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:30 am to
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Why is he solely responsible for that?


Have you watched our games? LSU under Chavis has always had the propensity to give up easy money in the 2 minute.

We held AJ McCarron to one completion in the 2nd half of the 2012 Bama game...........only to let him complete 5 straight on the final drive.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 9:32 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60185 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:35 am to
How many points and yards did the offense put up in each of these games?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22784 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:44 am to
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How many points and yards did the offense put up in each of these games?


Mettenburger threw for 293 and we scored 20......

This argument will never hold water bro..........Aggies aren't setting the offensive landscape on fire post JFF.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24433 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:39 am to
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How many points and yards did the offense put up in each of these games?


Enough to win. That's kind of the point.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:41 am to
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How many points and yards did the offense put up in each of these games?


More than A&M each time
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:43 am to
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Enough to win. That's kind of the point.


In 1965 maybe but on average what LSU puts up is on the low end of the scoring spectrum.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10522 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:44 am to
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quote:How many points and yards did the offense put up in each of these games?

More than A&M each time


With A&M's offense going up against Chavis.

Last year's offense ranks - A&M #28, LSU #74
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 10:46 am
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24433 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:47 am to
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In 1965 maybe but on average what LSU puts up is on the low end of the scoring spectrum.


Maybe but we were still in position to win games with 2 minutes left and we watched our DC completely change his defense to soft zone coverage and let the offenses go right down the field.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:49 am to
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Have you watched our games? LSU under Chavis has always had the propensity to give up easy money in the 2 minute.

We held AJ McCarron to one completion in the 2nd half of the 2012 Bama game...........only to let him complete 5 straight on the final drive


Would you prefer a defense that gives up points every drive of every game? If A&Ms only issue is giving up points the last drive instead of every drive I'll be ecstatic.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24433 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:49 am to
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With A&M's offense going up against Chavis.

Last year's offense ranks - A&M #28, LSU #74



No one said LSU was lighting up the scoreboard. All I'm saying is it's been a pattern with Chavis. UT warned LSU fans and now LSU fans are warning y'all.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60185 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:51 am to
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No one said LSU was lighting up the scoreboard.


Well that's good


If you think your defense was the problem I'm not sure what to tell you
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:52 am to
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No one said LSU was lighting up the scoreboard. All I'm saying is it's been a pattern with Chavis. UT warned LSU fans and now LSU fans are warning y'all.


2 months ago would you have supported Les Miles if he decided to fire Chavis and hire Kevin Steele to replace him?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14033 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:53 am to
If you don't think your Offense is part of the problem for A&M, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10522 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:09 am to
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All I'm saying is it's been a pattern with Chavis. UT warned LSU fans and now LSU fans are warning y'all.


A pattern of what? Top 20 defenses?
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24433 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:12 am to
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2 months ago would you have supported Les Miles if he decided to fire Chavis and hire Kevin Steele to replace him?


Not even a little bit. However, Chavis' defense gave up some pretty big games and LSU managed to have some pretty good defenses without Chavis. We'll be fine.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:13 am to
Great defense at LSU isn't exclusive to the Chavis years.
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